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    Posted: 17 October 2019 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by IainB IainB wrote:

I hadn't met Andrew (or any of the team) until today at the Showmans Show - hes a bit eccentric, but have  to say the line array sounded OK, admittedly it was stacked on a double set of twin 18s and I had nothing else to reference it against! They even admitted to making mistakes with some of their amp offerings, which I thought was a bit refreshing. Its on again tomorrow (free entry) if anyone is close and wants to see them first hand. (apologies for taking Outlook even more off track!)

Got to say after hearing their products; I’m not a fan.
Don’t think the line array sounds OK at all really, but then sound is subjective and running laptop MP3’s from headphone out into ultra drives might be a contributing factor.

a lot of the passive cabs look like studiospares old auditorium range, rebadged Chinese products not particularly hifi.

That said they are all cheap products and if you are on a tight budget and just want to make some noise within limitations then fair enough.
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Is the mistake saying that they’re 100% made in Britain?
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I hadn't met Andrew (or any of the team) until today at the Showmans Show - hes a bit eccentric, but have  to say the line array sounded OK, admittedly it was stacked on a double set of twin 18s and I had nothing else to reference it against! They even admitted to making mistakes with some of their amp offerings, which I thought was a bit refreshing. Its on again tomorrow (free entry) if anyone is close and wants to see them first hand. (apologies for taking Outlook even more off track!)
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Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

What may be beyond belief to you is that he seems to be doing very well.


Thing is, that many, many users will not be stressing these systems in the same way happened at Glastonbury - where the jocks looked to be delighted that they'd managed to blow up the system; we all know that there is a certain kind of DJ that glories in the sheer amount of volume that they can produce regardless of the sound quality, and a certain kind of punter that does exactly the same.

The systems purchased from BS (ummm, sounds like) will, on most occasions, be used by those who actually own the kit and will hear when the system is approaching its' limits and will not regard that as a challenge to illuminate more red lights.

And, they will lots of the time be used indoors rather than at a outdoor festival where reflected sound can be easily heard.

The 'major players' on these forums run systems which cost multiples (quite a lot of multiples in some cases) of what BS charge; their rental charge for a weekend can approach what BS charge to buy the whole system - and they have vast experience of idiot DJs' antics and red-lining and know how to circumnavigate them.

BS did not supply the system direct to Glastonbury.  It was specc'd by A1 in Bristol (I'm only speculating, but I can imagine that BS provided the kit 'for Glasto' at a vastly reduced price or for free) - who should really have provided people there to stop what was for BS a disaster.

Just my opinion.  In the main I nowadays run what is very a low-powered system even compared to to the 'Big-Gig-Rigs'




Edited by BJtheDJ - 16 October 2019 at 3:56pm
It's a difficult choice, would you rather have:

A: A vegan son.
B: An OnlyFans daughter
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i mean the stuff is cheap.. and it all looks like it's going to work.. which really is what a lot of people want.

i'm not a fan of the cheesy stretched marketing though... speakon cable with non neutrik speakons described as "selected for use at glastonbury 2019"..
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What may be beyond belief to you is that he seems to be doing very well.
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Quoted blurb;

Beyond belief.

Surely that is the same as unbelievable.

As in, I don't believe it, cos it's not TRUE.

Meaning, false.


Edited by valve head777 - 15 October 2019 at 9:01pm
Freedom of choice, choice of freedom.
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Also see that their

Big Gig Rig 27 - 8000w RMS PA System

Selected By Glastonbury Festival 2019 For The NEW DJ Stage

£2,300.00incVAT
Is still available for those of a discerning nature; c'mon,
we know you wanna see it !!!
It's a difficult choice, would you rather have:

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2 x 21 inch  sub under 12x12 inch top drivers????

Just me that likes more sub than that?? LOL
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I know someone who works with Pab, who is the engineer for Eurythmics. I’m curious if that comment is remotely true and if so, why he hasn’t put his name to it.
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Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

 

With your new 100% British Bishopsound system


"leaving the plywood 2000w RMS neodymium 21" drivers to take care of the sub frequencies and go down to 30Hz"

https://bishopsound.com/big-gig-rigs/big-gig-rig-19-8000w-rms-pa-system

How is this even working for him/them? Dead

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Bass =/= Enough
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Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

Originally posted by Sinai Sound Sinai Sound wrote:

Likkle old me.....




With your new 100% British Bishopsound system

shhhhhhhh! it's supposed to be a surprise! 
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