Any Speakers with sub and horn only?

It's both, and more. A good sounding speaker is part of a holistic approach - good design from the beginning, including the component parts such as driver and horn, but also it's companion parts such as other elements of the same box, and processing - whether that be DSP or analogue, or a mixture of both, and of course in varying degrees of hyper-processed FIR to minimal DSP or Meyer-grade stacked all-pass filters, Danley asymmetrical sloped filter banks and bulb networks, or no passive processing at all.

Edited by toastyghost - 11 December 2019 at 9:52pm

mikehende wrote: Oh I see. I am not an audiophile so just seeking a horn easily accessible here which might give me enough mids from it so back to my question if the Peavey Mf1-x horn might work and if not with it's original driver then which driver might work with it?

For those playing along at home:
https://manualzz.com/doc/3365162/peavey-mf1-x-user-s-manual

Note the very curious use of +/- in the coverage specs, these are trying to say in relation to the x and y axes. I'm going to assume a LOT of smoothing on those very nice plots they did, not on the basis of mistrust, but simply the level of technology available to them at the time in 1989.

They marketed this as a constant directivity 90x45 horn, and it does that. I bet it has some mighty fine rings and resonances, discontinuities from being pushed into mass manufacturing, but if you're keen for this idea - and two years, with that thread referencing others farther back is a long time to keep asking yourself the same question in a different way - then I would be tempted to just throw some cash behind a B&C DCX464 driver, make my own adapter to mount it to the horn bolt pattern, and see what happens.

If you invited me to a party where the rig was some CV Earthquakes going straight up to some big horns, well, the rest of the party would have to be pretty something for me to even consider it.

Even with these big horns and larger, modern compression drivers, those subs are going to sound awful muddy with vocals coming out of them.

You might well have more success with the reflex bin, as the drivers are on the front - the problem with the CV bin being that while sub-bass sounds fine coming down a long folded horn, low mids *do not*. You can imagine what it would sound like if you put a hi-fi driver on the end of a long pipe and then listened to the end of the pipe? Pipey. You've got to avoid that.

Soundscape wrote: Back in the 70's/80's, Vitavox (UK audio company) were making the Thunderbolt speaker. This was 2 way with a horn loaded 15" and a small 'multicell' radial with a S3 compression driver. They certainly weren't capable of producing 'sub' but still managed to generate a decent frequency range for the music of the time. I saw the band Landscape at a gig (1981 possibly) with 2 pairs of Thunderbolts per side for the PA plus some slot type tweeters which to my ears sounded great. Vitavox never got very far into the proaudio market as they were 'old school' and had been selling products into cinemas & theatres for many years. They also sold to the hifi market and still have some fans in that area today.

toastyghost wrote: So far, Mike has been saying he wants to throw parties with this system, not use it at home.