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    Posted: 20 June 2007 at 12:47am
Hi,
 
I have searched on this, found a couple o threads, but can't make head nor tale of it.
 
My Proline 3000 has a parallel switch, the manual also makes mention of 3000w @ 2ohm parallel.
 
So, my question is this : what the hell does that mean?
 
It's my understanding that, on most amps, parallel mode simply feeds both channels with the Ch.A input, creating 2 outputs from the single input.
 
I want to hang 3 HD15s from each channel (giving me 2.66hohms)... so do I flip the swtich, or make up some kind of Y-adaptor to feed both channels with the same input?
 
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basically just throw it in paralell and just run the signal through chan a!
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I also know.. aftera bit of searching.. different amps have different ways of operating in parallel mode.. I think Crest amps are different or something.
 
What does the @ 2ohm bit mean? (I can have a 2 ohm load on each channel maybe?)


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Usually parallel means that if you feed a signal to channel A then B will see it as well. Wired in parallel!

So set up your controller to run mono bass and now you only need one lead to run to the amp.

Channels see the same loads as usual ofc.
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There are two variations of parallel mono.

In both cases the input of the channels is connected such that the same appears at both outputs.  Some amps also allow the outputs of the channels to be connected together for driving loads lower than possible on a single channel eg below 2Ohms such as three two-driver cabs in paralell.  Camco Vortex amps actually have a relay inside which connects the outputs together.  The annoying thing about this is that it actually disconnects the channel B output so you can't use the mode just for getting the same out of both channels.

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Thanks Chris! - you got what I ment!
 
As I said in the first post... I know that on most amps parallel means 2
channels driven from the 1 input... great, and that's how I'm hoping it will work...
 
However.. the bit in the manual that says 3000w @ 2ohms is what confuses me... if it was simply taking the input for both channels from one, why would it mention this?
 
Unfortunatly the manual says nothing to clarify what it means.
 
Even if the amp does 'allow' for the connection of the outputs of both channels, can I just ignore this and hook up as I want to anyway? If this is the case will one channel be out of phase?
 
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In parallel mono,  both channels will be identical, ie in phase.  It's only bridge mono for which one is reversed.  So yes just connect one input and a cab to each output.
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sweet! cheers man.
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That's interesting, I didn't know that about the Camcos. So basically it disconnects the output transistrs of channel B and puts them in series with the output transistors of channel A. More current available to drive lower impredances - clever.
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so do you think my amp might do the same? will the efect what I want to do? (I'm a bit of a dummy when it comes to innerds of amps)
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Owain: Well parallel not series but yeah, it basically turns it into one big amp channel.  But Crown MA/VZ amps will do the same, some Crests will too.

Adam: Your proline probably doesn't have anything fancy, it's just the inputs that are connected together.
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