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Jack1991 
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 Posted: 27 June 2020 at 9:40pm |
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Cool i will search them now. Glad you rate the Thomanns too, a good few forums i have read all seem too like these thomann drivers. I have nothing to compare them to but they are better than i expected for the money. Im real excited to get all 4 Thams going! What 12" tapped horns you using? Id be interested in seeing the setup. Thanks too, i have learnt alot from you guys. I really appreciate all the help! 😀👍🏼 |
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munkey
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Posted: 27 June 2020 at 10:23pm |
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Which of the thomann drivers would you use? The w or the a?
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infrasound
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Posted: 27 June 2020 at 10:25pm |
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I believe the small mouth area of TH is partially to fault for lowering LF cutoff.
Plus, they are rarely used in enough quantity to force much LF pattern control. |
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Jack1991
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Posted: 27 June 2020 at 10:28pm |
I am using the 12-280-W I heard the 12-280-A can be used for the cubo kick 12
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Jack1991
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Posted: 27 June 2020 at 10:29pm |
Ah ok cool so the barndoor extensions would add lower extension then?
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infrasound
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Posted: 27 June 2020 at 10:43pm |
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They mainly do it by a different mechanism (increasing path length)
Just to make it more complicated
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Jack1991
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Posted: 27 June 2020 at 10:45pm |
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Haha ah ok another complicated speaker thing i need to learn then
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Posted: 28 June 2020 at 3:07pm |
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In my experience the biggest thing you will notice when using tapped horns is they get much, much louder when fired into a corner, than other bins. I've successfully filled a 10x15x3m bar with loud, deep bass using just one 12" tapped horn aimed into a corner from 3 feet back, loaded with an old McKenzie 300 watt driver, on a 500 watt amp channel.
The small size of most TH bins makes this easy to do in real world situations. I suppose the full corner loading makes up for the lack of mouth area on the bin itself.
Of course it's not really relevant when playing outside, unless you're next to a building. |
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Jack1991
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Posted: 28 June 2020 at 4:46pm |
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Oh cool i will give this a try in the garage see how it goes! Thanks man
It also seems having the rig on a pallet sounds better than having it on the floor. Is there a reason for this too or just coincidence? Edited by Jack1991 - 28 June 2020 at 5:19pm |
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Posted: 30 June 2020 at 10:39am |
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Another nooby question
 .. How have you routed the speaker cable through your Thams? Do you have speakons on the back and the cable running up through the horn or another way? |
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APW
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Posted: 30 June 2020 at 11:20am |
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Most builders drill a small tight fitting hole for the cable(s) roughly in one of the locations shown in red below, just make sure it’s airtight (use corking or neutral curing silicon) once the cable is fitted: Speakon
connectors can be fitted anywhere on the rear panel where there is room. Personally I wrap the cable(s) in cloth “loom” tape (tesa 51608 or similar), this stops them vibrating against the inside of the horn. Edited by APW - 30 June 2020 at 11:45am |
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Posted: 30 June 2020 at 12:09pm |
I went through the back straight level height to where the connectors on the speaker driver are. And used a double speakon socket plate. And then i used Black "the dogs bollocks" (yes its actually called that) says it cures in 24 hours. But it was probably 3 days anyway before i had a chance to fit the drivers.  I think they say some sealants like silicone, the fumes can eat away at the speaker or something like that. I twisted then dabbed a bit of solder on the ends of the speaker cable too. Made it alot easier getting them into the speaker fittings as its tight inside and you cant can what your doing.
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