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mk2_ginger_biscuit69
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i love it when tradesmen go off on one. You can buy test gear for a hell of a lot less used, and don't need a super expensive piece of accredited paper to perform a job to the required standards then test them. Most test gear is also incredibly automated making it quick and easy to use. I have no formal training, other than working alongside trades on other jobs, but could quite happily wire a house to a good safe standard, quite possibly to a higher standard than that you would find in a hastily knocked together newbuild. |
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James Tengo
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Likewise, the domestic sparky “production” employed to install a pair of synced sets at a low budget community ran festival - who’d never seen a set of powerlocks before - was apparently “more qualified” to do the job than I was...
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Boxes-R-Blue
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That may or may not be the case, but if you don't actually test it ( and I mean produce an EIC) it could be a death trap. I avoid domestic "sparky" work like the plague as I don't want to move furniture about, deal with kids, pets (ok I like pets) or idiots but if I do do it most people don't like my 12 page EICRs explaining why "the outside light their Dad put up", the "Extra socket" or "power to the shed" all need removing. Brand new socket plates can be faulty and if you don't have the gear to do proper tests (I mean PSC/PFC here, which no multi-meter can do ) you could have a fault which isn't really your fault (beyond you having a stab) literally cause a fire. The proliferation of cheap Chinese crap (some knock-off branded) also doesn't help, if you MK Dual USB socket is a fake you really want to check it can take 13A before you let your washing machine run over night off it... This is isn't a rant and I KNOW a lot of people on here and can very good work, I've seen it, but it is bit of a mute point if it is never ticketed. |
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Boxes-R-Blue
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You should have time lapsed him, I'm sure just watching him plug them up would be fun, let alone pushing in the second set!!!!
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odc04r
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I discovered previous cables running 45 degrees across walls well out of control zones once I started excavating. Maybe was DIY previously, maybe not. I know my installs are within permitted control zones so no bother. Funnily enough chap I eventually chucked tried to persuade me everything would be alright on one ring main in a large-ish kitchen. Didn't agree with that myself so doubled up and put extra spur in with significant over capacity for cooker. Measured suitably low loop impedances and isolation to >1Meg on all feeds once installed. Frankly I expect the work I did would be better than half the professionals just looking to move onto their next job. And now I also know where everything is buried. |
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odc04r
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As to add re zoning. All wiring was correct and within permitted zones, fitter was provided the plan, but he went and put his cupboard fix where he shouldn't have. This was also according to the plan that the kitchen provider had issued. It was a vertical run and perfectly permissible. |
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Boxes-R-Blue
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1Meg??
@ what voltage? 10Megs min @ 500V, I'mm looking for 99.9..... on the screen |
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chris_k
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1 meg ohm is min for regs innit?
Yep higher the better but sometimes in damp ridden rentals where the kitchens just been plastered, washing is drying everywhere, no windows are ever open you are lucky to get 10meg ohm. Even new installs sometimes are a bit low as fabric of the building is damp. Let's not forget a mega ohm is 1 million ohms!
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Boxes-R-Blue
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"min for Regs" ye just what I want in my house.... But hat is 1 Meg @ 250V, 1 Meg on your Fluke multi meter don't count....
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chris_k
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Nope I'm sure it's 1M ohm at 500 v
I'm a Megger man myself
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Boxes-R-Blue
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Yep looking, it starts and 500V and I can select 1KV and 250V by button pressing, I stupidly thought it started at the lowest and you went up...
Point is, not 9V on my Fluke 87! |
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