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Noyzmunky
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I have 1x LIGWA 18'' loaded with Radion 2218 in the kitchen with a 12'' kick and a pair of 2x 8'' with 1/2'' dual concentric tops and I listen to deep reggae cuts and dub.
Tried a scoop in the same and it was reflecting all over the place. It was like it was all out of phase (which of course scoops generally are.) A nice simple, well put together reflex cab will give you a better response down low at low volumes and be more efficient. Also quite a bit smaller. scoops sound ok outside and in spaces big enough they can do their thing. If you cant hit 45hz with some authority behind it you're not going to like it, and no scoop likes that if it's on it's own. |
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The real Reggae dudes (aged 50+), will have had booming hifi sets in their bedrooms, when they were 12-13 years old..
They know what a pair of 3x way cabs, with either 12/15" woofer will do, given decent Class A amp, and ADC Equalizer. A Gsub or similar, loaded with original PD186, or Fane 18XB600, powered by 1x side of Crest CA18, will give oodles of low smooth sub, starting at 32hz, at low volume. Just get Klark Tekniks DN360, for tuning/annoying neighbours.
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Nick Sasquash
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reggae sound system has been my life for 20 years+ ... a pair of these for home use, jobs done |
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KWB75
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Just how small do you want it?
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A. But depth relates to signal to noise ratio only not to resolution of sampling, and modern digital equipment performs equally well over a wide range of bit depths. B. If signal levels are low enough to make this a problem it's easy enough to run all gain stages hot and turn down the amplifiers input attenuators. |
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heard this at dub specialist yard mite be too much for sum but sounds heavy and crisp
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Chris Grimshaw
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My current HiFi speakers use B&C DE250s for 1kHz and up. They sound excellent. I've done some testing, and found that speakers respond linearly even at extremely low levels (as in, I couldn't hear the sweeps happening in-room, but a Beyer MC930 close to the cone picked them up just fine), so it's more likely the electronics that are operating way down in the noise, causing degradation. If the system is capable of 140dB@1m, you're throwing away a lot of digital bits by running at 70dB@1m. Chris
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Bams
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As above... tried to run two jbl 4530ās as a part of my hifisetup in a medium sized living room and it just didnt work. Too much reflections and cancellations going on.
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Tonskulus
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Livingroom is usually just too small space for a scoop to make them sound good. Its all about room acoustics and modes.
I have been storing two hog scoops in a living room and ofcourse tested them. Yes, there is ALOT of bass pressure right in front of the stack and things are rumbling and flying around the room.. but it just doesn't sound right overall. I also have two 12inch scoops but..well, they sound dry and honky and does only 70-150Hz. Very efficient tho. Properly designed Reflex or even 6th order bandpass tuned to 30-40Hz will sound better generally speaking in small spaces. You may try something like Fane 18SB/XB or RCF LF18G401 for a good price/performance. |
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Johnnyspeakerp
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Thanks for the replies. I knew the idea of scoops in a living room would get criticism. Ridiculous means they are oversized for that kind of environment? This is why I took into consideration a scaled down version. I never listened to a 10ā or 12ā Scoop playing so I would like to know if someone has. Iām not expecting the feeling of a full size set but an acceptable compromise. Reflex could be an option too.
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B&C DE25 1" Compression driver, with B&C ME45 1" Alu horn, pure loveliness for home highs and sizzle. Especially if mated with Class AB amp on Mid tops. Peavey GPS3400 is also ultra smooth on Home Sub, 2x15" or 2x18". |
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Sinai Sound
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18" scoop in the front room won't work. I've been there and done that
Also, a scaled down version won't play as deep as a single 18" reflex, which quite frankly, will still be ridiculous in a front room We get complaints from a single 12" Yamaha active monitor The other problem is that "PA" gear generally doesn't sound great at low volume, that's why you have high sensitivity Hi-Fi drivers BUT, if you genuinely want something fun for home, and mid level volume isn't a problem then... 18" reflex sub, 15" reflex kick, 12" + 1.4" + bullets will sound exactly like a mini rig, in a small package Edited by Sinai Sound - 16 September 2020 at 3:46pm |
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