Jands TMS4's (Australian build) |
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StuVee
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Posted: 28 November 2020 at 12:37pm |
I picked up 2 so far, one is effectively just the cabinet and crossover, the other is almost complete. They were originally blue and then painted black later, looks like I am 4th or 5th owner. I did get 2 new (reconed) 10" drivers as part of the deal, no sign of an hf unit yet. Just the flare. The 10s were turbo original but all markings peeled off, probably not their first recone.
Ill pick up the other two and post some photos. Anyone know where I can get a couple of 18" drivers? Also what was the processor of the day? Stu
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madboffin
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Not a lot of people know this, but:
Although the classic Turbo systems were in the standard Turbo Blue, which was part of the marketing concept, the factory actually made some in black. They were for export only and to special order, and it was done at the request of some major customers in the USA who insisted on an industry-standard black finish. Production managers, of course, liked everything in black for low visibility. This was kept very quiet - Turbosound didn't want to lose their trademark blue colour as it provided instant recognition when their systems were seen in use, an excellent way of promoting the brand. Normally any request for an alternative colour was met with "sorry, but we can't do that". So black is a legitimate colour for Turbo boxes although if you want the classic look, blue is the way to go! Edited by madboffin - 19 October 2020 at 1:12pm |
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Phil B
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Great...post some pics up here and I'll go back to the old-timers and see if they remember them !! .p. |
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StuVee
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They sure areš and I'm picking them up next week btw for a full restore. Then they will go blue.....
Stu.
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Phil B
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Ok... so I've spoken to some ex Jands guys and Bruce Johnson who have memories of this stuff !
Jands did make TMS3 copies ( called Series 3) which were loaded with JBL drivers ( def the 15" ) maybe not the highs ? But no-one remembers there being any Jands made TMS4's ? Are those boxes black perchance ? Laters .p. Edited by Phil B - 19 October 2020 at 12:59am |
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madboffin
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Yes, it would make sense. Probably the only person who will know for sure is Tony Andrews. The SSE agreement famously ended acrimoniously, with a big falling-out between Tony Andrews and John Penn! -------- Dave Martin had an agreement in the 1980s with his Canadian distributor Russ Heinl (Heinl Electronics) for some standard Martin equipment to be built locally. The boxes were made in the Yorkville woodworking factory, which built cabinets for several manufacturers, and the products were sold in Canada and the USA. Edited by madboffin - 18 October 2020 at 1:34pm |
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I would not be surprised if Jands were legitimate builders of these. SSE in the UK built turbo in its early days, and given the distance and import duty situation it makes a lot of sense from a business perspective.
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Phil B
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I have connections to Jands via my work. I'll see if there's anyone still there who might know about those boxes. Probably not but worth an ask ?
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madboffin
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From when I worked at Partridge Green (1993) I don't recall hearing anything about boxes being built (legitimately) elsewhere, and we were still making a few TMS4's at that time. We were shipping UK-made product all over the world.
But that was after FK1 had split off, so I don't know what arrangements might have been made in the 1980s. I know they always kept very tight control over who built the boxes, and took legal action against unauthorised constructors. Edited by madboffin - 17 October 2020 at 10:07pm |
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Boxes-R-Blue
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Jands had a massive Turbo stock and may well have had a licence to build them, SSE build Nexo in the UK, so it seem logical a rental house the size of Jands (who carried enough Claire S4 to do U2 back in teh day, to give an idea of their size) would be able to do that.
Snobbery aside, I'd run them up and have listen, if you like them, buy them. The 18 has to hit 250Hz so they need to be pretty well specc'd to achieve that!!!!!! |
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Racks&Stacks
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My understanding is that there is like one sub model licensed to be built in the uk, but definitely not the entire product line
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im speculating here, but it wouldn't surprise me if they built 'licensed' cabs in Australia to original blueprints etc, with drivers specified by Turbo - possibly tailored to the local market availability. Your import rules/taxes are mental. Much like most the Danley in the UK, was made in country under license rather than imported from his woodshop. Should be the same product ultimately, but will always be subtle differences. |
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