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    Posted: 28 October 2021 at 12:37am
Originally posted by slaz slaz wrote:

Hey Sam ....

Yeah I'd be interested in that some time .... but I now have some serious medical sh*t going on , so anything sound system has to be shelved for now TBH.

Thanks for the offer ..... we should have a natter/meet up some time anyway.

Oof sorry to hear that matey. Hope things improve swiftly where possible.
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"Capacity Test" = 12V soundclash? Embarrassed


You mean last battery running = winner ? Yeah would be pretty cool - but not so much in English winter !
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Hey Sam ....

Yeah I'd be interested in that some time .... but I now have some serious medical sh*t going on , so anything sound system has to be shelved for now TBH.

Thanks for the offer ..... we should have a natter/meet up some time anyway.
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"Capacity Test" = 12V soundclash? Embarrassed
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Nice! Do shout if you want the battery capacity tested, I'm still over in Limehouse :)
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Originally posted by SamV SamV wrote:

You can get BMS with various means to output data.

Anyways Studio45 is right, 3.2v (per sec) is the standard storage voltage for lifep04. I'd be curious to test their actual capacity, have you done so? I have one of those 15a capacity testors. I've recently purchased a 120ah of lifep04 cos it was cheap and I'm getting 104ah which is still fantastic for the price, but I'm about to order 1200ah of grade a cells and JBD BMS' to build a battery bank for a friends narrowboat :)

I'd be curious to know what you think of that amp?


Yeah - but I went for the ready-built battery - Ultramax brand. These (I have 2) are rated 50Ah each, but I haven't done any kind of capacity testing - other than playing em through the Pioneer amp. All I can say right now is they certainly seem to perform - better than I expected.

I played at a wake up in Springfield Park (Clapton) the other night - just using 2 bridged channels of the amp into a single FBT 4R 12" box - ran it hard for about 4.5 hours, and it still needed quite a bit of discharging to get it down to 3.2V/cell :-) That was a _wicked_ do BTW - 2 DJ's doing their thang with Apple laptops and those ridiculously large DJ controller things - plenty of mic action etc.
I was using my 2nd battery to power one of the Apple laptops via a cheapie inverter too !

The Pioneer amp - well I rate it pretty highly. Sounds clean to me - plenty of guts in it and well behaved. The top part of the casing is the chassis basically - the o/p devices are bolted to it.
The only downside (for me) is that its a bit on the heavy side because of that die-cast chassis .... OTOH I think I'd prefer that to relying on some active cooling with a naff little fan somewhere.
The case was luke warm after running 2 channels hard for several hours.
Overall I'd recommend it ....
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Ah 1200AH at 3.2V, thought you were building a traction pack :)
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Mine is going to be a standard 12v affair, using Eve cells, I think 305ah iirc.
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Originally posted by SamV SamV wrote:

You can get BMS with various means to output data.

Anyways Studio45 is right, 3.2v (per sec) is the standard storage voltage for lifep04. I'd be curious to test their actual capacity, have you done so? I have one of those 15a capacity testors. I've recently purchased a 120ah of lifep04 cos it was cheap and I'm getting 104ah which is still fantastic for the price, but I'm about to order 1200ah of grade a cells and JBD BMS' to build a battery bank for a friends narrowboat :)

I'd be curious to know what you think of that amp?


The narrowboat project sounds interesting, I built a 62V li-ion 1200Ah lithium battery for our barge last winter, super happy with the performance 6 months down the line - what cells are you using?
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You can get BMS with various means to output data.

Anyways Studio45 is right, 3.2v (per sec) is the standard storage voltage for lifep04. I'd be curious to test their actual capacity, have you done so? I have one of those 15a capacity testors. I've recently purchased a 120ah of lifep04 cos it was cheap and I'm getting 104ah which is still fantastic for the price, but I'm about to order 1200ah of grade a cells and JBD BMS' to build a battery bank for a friends narrowboat :)

I'd be curious to know what you think of that amp?


Edited by SamV - 06 September 2021 at 6:50pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote slaz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 August 2021 at 5:45pm
Yeah OK .... well I couldn't really see any other way to assess SOC.
Actually you'd think a USB port as a means of querying the BMS wouldn't be beyond the wit of man - eh ? Can't see it would cost more than loose change to implement.
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I think as long as the voltage is at about 3.2v, they are in the best state they can be for storage. It is basically impossible to determine SOC from voltage though as you say. So if you wanted to be sure, you'd have to charge them up fully, then drain them through an Ah meter into a dummy load until you've taken 25Ah out of each battery. For thoroughness, you'd want to do a full-drain capacity test first to determine actual capacity. Depends how long you want to spend watching an Ah meter I suppose ;)

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