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Originally posted by Line Array Line Array wrote:


i'm on a 2 week ban from AVS

I can’t imagine why…..
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Just go into a US hifi shop and ask for a "Mugs Eyeful". I'm confident that someone will point you in the right direction. Oh, and I almost forgot. You'll definitely be needing the TK-421 upgrade to boost the bass by atleast 3 or 4 quads per channel.


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Originally posted by FOO FOO wrote:

If you want deep bass, and dont need oodless of SPL, get some old JBL TCB subs. Dual 18“ bandpass in a massive box. They go low! And can be found really cheap :)


An excellent choice. I remember JBL providing a Sound Power system for a Ministry Of Sound club tour back in the late 90s. Made the news here as during a sound check, they managed to blow the windows out one of the venues.  Smile


Edited by Andylaser - 21 March 2022 at 3:10pm
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Line array, if you're serious i suggest you state your budget, music type, a detailed description of the space and ask the people here to suggest a solution for you. 

Just throwing your own ideas out and trying to get people to pull them together wont yield useful results in the same way. 
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If you want deep bass, and dont need oodless of SPL, get some old JBL TCB subs. Dual 18“ bandpass in a massive box. They go low! And can be found really cheap :)
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Get an Alexa.
www.wedding-production.co.uk

www.stage2sound.com
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Originally posted by Line Array Line Array wrote:

that link to AliExpress doesn't go anywhere not that it matters as i think i was pretty clear i'm not looking to pick up Chinese scrap metal ...
The link works perfectly for me, must be something on your end. 
Originally posted by Line Array Line Array wrote:

were you trying to link to one of those Sinbosen FP20000 units that everybody uses at AVS ?
It was something similar but I don't know if it matters. You're all over the map, you say you don't want cheap junk but then mention Crown XLS which are the cheap chinese junk you're trying to avoid. You want Powersoft or Lab Gruppen but you're "broke and want the cheapest gear possible", but then turn up your nose at the chinese stuff. The caribbean island crews have been flogging some of these big chinese amps for years now and they have gained in popularity because of the performance delivered. 
In a brand name amplifier the most affordable option may be these... T604 - Powersoft yeah still not exactly cheap but there is no middle ground in the high power multi channel amplifier market.. in case you hadn't noticed. 
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Anyone who needs one 21” subwoofer let alone 8 in a house clearly can not design, build or tune a worthwhile subwoofer. End.
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Originally posted by Line Array Line Array wrote:

Originally posted by Robbo Robbo wrote:

Yet another stupid question from yet another penniless dreamer with nothing better to do than waste members time on here!!!!!!!

what exactly is stupid about the question ?

you don't agree with my goals - i don't agree with yours.

i guess that makes you an idiot - right ?

or did you wait like a slave until others voiced their opinions so you could mirror them and get a pat on the back from fellow sheep for being a good boy who never thinks for himself and only can voice the sentiment you pick up from others  ?

yeah i thought so.


LOL, you obviously don’t have a clue….. and you have no idea who you have just called an idiot!!

Robbo is most certainly no idiot or a sheep.
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Originally posted by Line Array Line Array wrote:


i'm on a 2 week ban from AVS and over there you're not cool unless you run at least 8 subs in your home theater and unless the subs are TC Sounds LMS Ultra they should be at least 21" ...


So it appears you are tyrying to "be cool" and keep up with the neighbours rather that trying to get good sound.
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Originally posted by Robbo Robbo wrote:

Yet another stupid question from yet another penniless dreamer with nothing better to do than waste members time on here!!!!!!!

what exactly is stupid about the question ?

you don't agree with my goals - i don't agree with yours.

i guess that makes you an idiot - right ?

or did you wait like a slave until others voiced their opinions so you could mirror them and get a pat on the back from fellow sheep for being a good boy who never thinks for himself and only can voice the sentiment you pick up from others  ?

yeah i thought so.


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Originally posted by Andylaser Andylaser wrote:

Why do you think you need 8 x 18" subs in a house?

I have 2 x 15" subs and can rattle ornaments on the mantle piece in the house next door but one if I want to. However, I prefer to use a low powered high quality amp and get a little more speed and dynamics over sheer output.

i'm on a 2 week ban from AVS and over there you're not cool unless you run at least 8 subs in your home theater and unless the subs are TC Sounds LMS Ultra they should be at least 21" ...

granted they run their subs in basement home theaters and they probably have gigantic lots with the next house half a mile away ... 

by contrast i would be running the subs on 1st floor with just 11 feet between me and the next house ... i did some testing with my single TC Sounds LMS Ultra and surprisingly the house contains bass pretty well - i can actually hear more midrange through the wall than bass !  and over the wind gusts i couldn't hear anything at all.

are you sure you're not making that stuff up about your dual 15" subs having serious output ?  i don't even know any serious 15" subwoofer drivers, except maybe some Car Audio units.

anyway my neighbor is like always in Florida ...

frankly everybody here in NJ is always in Florida ... i don't know how Florida can accommodate all the people from NJ ...


Edited by Line Array - 20 March 2022 at 1:23pm
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