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    Posted: 28 February 2023 at 11:43am
I have x2 PDU. But yeah makes sense to put the Amps into their own wall socket. I have x2 double wall sockets at home so ill out large amps into those and have turntable, DSP, Siren, Mixer and (smaller) high amp in PDUs thanks

PS I’ve bought 10amp rated leads too, thanks for the advice people.
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Originally posted by SnailSpace SnailSpace wrote:

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1U 6 way Horizontal 13A switched PDU with 3 Way LED indicator Surge protection.
SURGE PROTECTED - Surge protected devices are used to protect equipment from surges in voltage ensuring all connected devices are safe when connected.
Provides 6 UK Sockets.
Power Switch.
3 Pin UK plug (13 amps) (3X1.5mm2).
Length of power lead is 5m.

Ok there is only a 13a fuse in the plug for the 4 x 13a outlets.   you can run the entire system off a single 13a plug (it might get warm)  but it is better practice to spread the load across two supplies ie: use a separate 13a supply for your biggest amplifier and use the PDU for everything else.. 


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PDU

1U 6 way Horizontal 13A switched PDU with 3 Way LED indicator Surge protection.
SURGE PROTECTED - Surge protected devices are used to protect equipment from surges in voltage ensuring all connected devices are safe when connected.
Provides 6 UK Sockets.
Power Switch.
3 Pin UK plug (13 amps) (3X1.5mm2).
Length of power lead is 5m.
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Originally posted by SnailSpace SnailSpace wrote:



I recently bought Power Distribution Units which have 3 way power surge protection, it also has an ‘earth ground’ point.




Pray do tell...

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What's the mains power connector for this item ?
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I asked to take a look at a PC that wasn't working properly, when I touched the metal casing I got a minor shock, cheap IEC cable turned out to be made of conductive plastic.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kedwardsleisure Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2023 at 8:20am
Yes but I would throw those substandard IEC leads away. How much are genuine, certified 10A IEC leads from CPC...£2? Not worth risking your life or someone else's for this. Think of it as seeing your rack on fire for free or seeing it working fine all night for £2.

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Do you think the dB-Mark DSP & Mixer would be fine on a 5amp? As I can’t see them demanding as much?


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0.75mm Needs a 5 amp fuse. They are not suitable for a power amp.
Cheers, Chris.
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sounds dodgy to me

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By the way when I wrote ‘Kettles came with 5A’ I meant my kettle leads as in the IEC Leads I’d just bought (I was just using the term kettle) I thought I’d put up the specs but must have deleted them, here they are;
High Quality 
Fully certified for use in UK Standard Uk Plug to IEC (kettle like) plug. Used for powering a whole range of equipment. 5A fused cable for 240V. 5A Rated Moulded UK plug 
5A Rated IEC Plug
British Standards Approved BS1383/A 3 x 0.75mm2 Rated Cable


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Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

Quote Kettles came with 5A


C13 IEC leads are 10A as already stated and in the UK would normally come with a 13A fuse, although some do come with 10A.
If they arrive new with a 5A fuse in then it's possible they're a substandard cable and have been de-rated, but this is not permitted and I'd be looking to see what other corners have been cut with them (some have fake fuses or copper-clad aluminium foil cores which can overheat dangerously). I would think running any pro amplifier with a 5A fuse in the plug is sailing close to the wind especially if there's any sort of inrush.

The C15 is what comes with kettles and is the same but slotted, denoting it can be used at elevated temperatures as often seen with kettles.


Listen to this man. Look at the size of cable, 1.00mm makes it a 10amp rated cable.
It has a 13 amp fuse because a 10 amp fuse isn't so easily available (they do exist though).
It's a 10 amp rated cable.
Kettle plugs are also known as a 'Hot Condition' connector.
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I have just found a few 13A rated iec leads so will switch Power Amps to those.

Would my Power Distro (3 way surge) not protect the gear before any plug fuses anyway or could the 5amp rated leads be what cause the surge to kick in and shut down the Power Distro? 

Do you think the dB-Mark DSP & Mixer would be fine on a 5amp? As I can’t see them demanding as much?

(I know these may seem tedious questions but probably worth knowing for if I’m ever playing live and something happens, knowing where to look. Plus worth trying to limit any form of shut down during live sets also!)


Edited by SnailSpace - 09 February 2023 at 12:17pm
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