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Strange Daze
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Id fully agree with 99% of that.....
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Bodong
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Hi all,
I made audio rental for weekend pay some bill not a big system but it grow lately I found a "non line array" system like Dynacord XA series, HK countour, KV2 VHD series really made me impress compare to many line array system, I am not sure about what made this happend is the operator or the system for example I heard XA series from 2 rental company the first one consistently sound better than the last one. if my budget allow I think KV2 VHD series will in my first list in for my investment the XA series second sorry line array will in my seventh. |
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tv00
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I need to do some tuning of w9lm boxes in a club, they sound awful with highs making the audience deaf, just wanted to hear if anyone has any suggestions / tricks for this particular box?
Obviously i need to turn down the highs & do some eqing for room resonances. They have only 2 per side, but its ok I think as they have a low concrete ceiling and a concrete floor! Sounds awful until audience arrives. below this they have 6 wsx boxes per side! Edited by tv00 - 27 October 2014 at 1:20pm |
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Jimmer
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Do you mean a W8lm? the mini line array?
If so, I too hired in a W8lm system for a small festival this year, we were astonished at the amount of EQ we had to apply to the system to get it sounding half decent. Incredibly harsh top end I thought. 10K was just plain dangerous!! Wasn't what I expected anyway. |
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Light travels faster than sound....That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak!
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MarjanM
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They are not designed to work as two per side, so no wonder the HF is bright. More boxes you add more low end boost you get, so it smooths out. There are dsp settings on the martin site. That can help i hope.
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Marjan Milosevic
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Jimmer
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4 a side minimum I'd say, better with six..
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MarjanM
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six is about the minimum to get them work as line array anyway. small boxes.
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Marjan Milosevic
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tv00
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Ah, the problem is that they don't couple low enough in pairs? manual says minimum 3 cs per side.
I didn't put them, but I think they've thought it was the perfect splay, anyway they're really harsh! I'm afraid I'd have to add a lot of eq too:-( |
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GorillaAudio
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if you only have 2 per side, I'd try and find a pair of Martin W8VDQ's. They are basically a W8LM and W8LMD glued together and designed just for this sort of '2 box a side' use and they sound amazing. From what you say though in regards to the space, id also try and find some drape or material to cover the back wall or something. Edited by GorillaAudio - 29 October 2014 at 12:18am |
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ruelectrical
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I firmly believe if you buy a rig with a Division A badge, designed by enginneers with years and pedigree of experience, if you set it up as manufacturers want it to be heard you aint going to go far wrong with any of the current line array systems, sound bloody great.
Start to change things for the sake of it , your ears get confused and you forget how it should sound, Classic case at Pro this year, the smallest rig in the big room , Martin Audio ( yes I am potentially bias as I own a bit), sounded the sweetest, no eq just a nice clean audio source and system doing as designed
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Shaun
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I saw Aussie pink floyd last year in Cardiff and the line array was their own, it was an Admson rig, quadraphonic and ssl desk, their sound engineer is the original pink floyd one, can't remember his name now but spent some time talking with him, very nice chap, and will have to say the sound was excellent
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No, it is not a line array it is some well stacked boxes...............
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tv00
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ok, so basically you say he'd need 1 more per side or a W8DVQ to get a proper response, I'll check the dsp setiings, it should be manufacturer settings, but no doubt they sound harsh when pushed.
My system sounded nice in there last weekend just as it came with my personal "factory settings", but I improved it, I always do as much as I can with the crossover, often I do eq and move the results to the xover if possible. |
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