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    Posted: 04 August 2008 at 6:33am
Earl Geddes on P Audio:

*snip*

This was tried actually, but the Paudio stuff was not nearly as good as the B&C. In fact the data sheets for Paudio were pure fiction - an "artists conception". That said, I could make them work and this idea is currently being discussed if AI can ever open its doors again.

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I know everyone at Paudio. I know the owner personally. Sure I could get anything that I want from them. There is no shortage of low cost driver manufacturers for that matter. Paudio basically has no R&D staff. They are a rock bottom priced manufacturer with no internal expertise at all. They basically make up their data sheets, so I wouldn't trust them at all.

*snip*

What I pay for B&C drivers and what you pay in Australia are completely different. From here, for me, the Paudio are only a little cheaper. If I went to Asia for drivers I'd go to Boke in Guangdong. But dealing in China is not something that I am up to and, as I said before, the Asian advantage is disappearing fast.

I'm going paranoid, first amps and now drivers that I have to be careful of with regard to spec sheets nowadays? Always know that measured specs can be a little bit off, reminded earlier of it by a friend (about 18sound), and now...Ouch.

Looks like multimeter time.
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that's bullsh*t

where did you get that from?
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I thought so, I've never had problems with P Audio!

It's Dr. Geddes on diyaudio, that was a thread on his kits. He has a nice concept with his OS waveguides, but can really say some quite controversial stuff and be a 'my way or the highway' person. Nothing personal.


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I've got a lot of respect for his work and I really want to hear the OS waveguide as I think he's on to something there.

However, I do think it's a bit rich that he'll say that when he hasn't bothered to make a jig for his kits to get a router to go in a straight line, or the panels have up to 3mm variance. His response to the customer was basically, 'at this price, you get what you pay for' - although he did offer money back and re-cut the panel. Seeing as he's chastising a customer for questioning tolerances on a value product, maybe he shouldn't so damning in his judgement of P.audio, who also deliver at a price?
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The 'big red book' & websites can be a bit out of date for P-Audio but sending an email to check 100% isn't a problem for me,I've always found Khun Dom at P-Audio very helpful in providing upto date specs.
 
Unlike all of the chinese companies i have tried to get info from.
 
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The 'big red book' & websites can be a bit out of date for P-Audio but sending an email to check 100% isn't a problem for me,I've always found Khun Dom at P-Audio very helpful in providing upto date specs.
 
Unlike all of the chinese companies i have tried to get info from.
 
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Originally posted by H... H... wrote:

Khun Dom
 
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Is it just me, or is that a really bad name when communicating with english speaking customers LOL
 
I think I understand why some asians decide to use a western name when dealing with europeans and americans..
 
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Khun in Thai is the same as Mr/Mrs/Miss in english.................. Dom should be said with the 'om' as a low falling tone. Dom is not a 'western' name Thai's have a long name which most non thai speaking people would find difficult to say but all Thais have a short name - Dom, Ton, Lek, Noi, Jak, Lee, Mam,Bin, Dao etc etc. The Chinise or Hong Kong people mostly take on a 'western' name.
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Originally posted by H... H... wrote:


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Unlike all of the chinese companies i have tried to get info from.
 
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Haha, sometimes you just have to go up to their doorstep and demand the info, claiming your long car trip as the bargaining chip!
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As some of you may know, I visited Paudio in Thailand recently
 
While I was looking through the very thickShocked catalogue, I noticed some remarkable spec's, when I questioned these parameters an engineer was called for, I asked him 5 different questions about five drivers
 
the five answers were......
its a printing error
its a printing error
its a printing error
its a printing error
its a printing error
 
Another factory I visited who shall remane shamless, was questioned about a remarkable flat line for a 10'' driver
 
when I said thats so good it looks as if someone did it with a pen!.........  IT WAS!!Thumbs%20Down
 
I prefer companies like Faital pro and Hemp Accoustic's, these guys only make a few drivers and do this very well
 
P Audio will be selling kitchen taps soon as well as the kitchen sink
 
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Faital Pro Thumbs%20Up
Not many heard of them, but they good.
Hemp Acoustics Thumbs%20Up though you really can't compare, they're not in this market are they?

You been to some of the other small hifi manufacturer's as well?

Mykey you take me back to rear loaded horns and MLTQWTTPAHGSYTFUFDUYwhatevers.
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