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hi grade
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Posted: 14 August 2008 at 1:26pm |
crown ma 5000 vs lab gruppen 6400 whos better ?
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ceharden
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One weighs a ton and has a highly unrefined sound, one is light enough to pick up with one finger and has a very clean, accurate sound.
I'll let you guess which is which..... |
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Arc welder vs professional ampilfier
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the smf
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i cant even believe its bein asked which amp is better out of these 2 whats better, a ford or a ferrari..............ummmm, i wonder
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Stumbler
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on proper sub tho..... (let the old argument begin )
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not as straight forward as i first imagined..
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Deadbeat
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It's called distortion. Makes things sound louder (psychoacoustics is an interesting subject). 'Warm' up the sound with some tubes (real or dsp) and you'll be there.
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Away on extended leave.
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Edited by SteveAATW - 14 August 2008 at 2:48pm |
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Deadbeat
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Sorry steve, I gave in .
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Away on extended leave.
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tweeter box
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whatever you might wanna call it, the question still remains can it play real low sub bass as good as the crown?
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tweeter box
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Lab Gruppen fp 6400 Lab Gruppen - fp6400
Key Features 2 x 1280 watts @ 8 ohms 2 x 2200 watts @ 4 ohms 2 x 2500 watts @ 2 ohms (Measured just below clip level, with both channels driven) Light weight and compact: only 10 kg (22 lbs), 2U high MLS? Switch: Lab.gruppen?s unique power matching for different loads Class TD design in flagship models (fP 6400 and fP 3400) wow its only 10kg!!!!!!!!! i didnt realise it was that light! |
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Peter Moller
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OK.. I have worked quite a lot with both of these amps as well as quite a few other products in the same power range..
For general purpose use, the Lab wins - its light, compact and fairly powerful.
For bass heavy electronic music or reggae*, I'd definately go for the Ma5000.. It doesnt sound as nice as the Lab, its big and heavy, but its got a real powersupply** wich makes it able to deliver high power for extended periods..
* Tracks like these will make the FP6400 run out of steam pretty fast if you are running it at close to full power.. ** A lot of the lightweight amps on the market today tends to have some issues with the size of their PSU - they simply cant deliver full power constantly..
The powersupply issue can be described using the plumbers example:
you need a 10 litre burst of water in 1 second to flush the toilet..
there are 2 ways to solve this:
A: Install a HUGE waterpipe ( the conventional, heavy amps like the 5000VZ )
B: Install a reservoir and connect it to the regular 1/2" pipe in the building.. Dump the contents of the reservoir when you need to flush.
Solution B is by far the most cost effective method, and it will work perfectly under normal conditions, but when you invite your friends over for pints, the toilet will see a larger demand for the reservoir - infact the toilet will be flushing so often that the reservoir wont have time to refill completely..
I had a cheapish lightweight amp on the bench for some time ago.. Specs claimed it to do 2K into a 4 ohm load.. It did, but only for less than 0.5 seconds wereafter it dec ided to use the limiter to keep the amp in the PSU safe mode..
/peter
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tallmike
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I don't even think the 5000 is seen as a sound (haha) investment anymore, whereas a Lab4000 / Fp6400 is..
And from what I've found, heard in real-world jobs, they deliver 'low bass' perfectly well.... and I mean low bass, not just dance music!
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