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Ibex, thanx a lot !! until i sell my BPH Loaded with C18, i will make a SB18 Cab, as soon as posibile. It's smaller, more compact and i'm curious too of the comparason result.
Can u post as well the Plot for  DIAPHRAGM DISPLACEMENT, at 600W/piece or 1200W/2 bins, for SN15LF.
10q, again !


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Originally posted by KenTech KenTech wrote:

Ibex, thanx a lot !! until i sell my BPH Loaded with C18, i will make a SB18 Cab, as soon as posibile. It's smaller, more compact and i'm curious too of the comparason result.
Can u post as well the Plot for  DIAPHRAGM DISPLACEMENT, at 600W/piece or 1200W/2 bins, for SN15LF.
10q, again !


Beyma SB15 - SN-15LF - Excursion 69,28V
Beyma SB15 - PAudio SN-15LF - Excursion 69,28V

KenTech,
I'm sorry, I made a little mistake with the simulation between 2xSB15 vs. ES-18BPH, now the plot above should be correct!

Yesterday I hab the chance to get an auditory impression of an stack of 4 ES-18BPH loaded with Eminence Omega Pro-18A. They played not too deep, but a clear punchy sound with the right kick. The 4 cabs were driven by 2 bridged QSC 2450, so more than enough power. Their unprocessed response was very flat and they did easily 145dB! They did a better job than a stack of 4 HK RL118!

ES-18BPH x4 - Omega Pro-18A - SPL 113,13V
ES-18BPH x4 - Eminence Omega Pro-18A - SPL 113,13V

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thanx again Ibex.
Maybe i'm asking too much.. but can u post the plot of comparison between 2 x SB15-1 Loaded with Beyma SM115K and ES18BPH loaded with C18ELF, a plot of comparison between 2 x SB15-1 loaded with SD15 ( Paudio ) (http://www.p-audio.co.uk/products/db_product_1_13_sd-15.htm ) and Es18BPH loaded with C18ELF....
i'm trying to make a point of view... does it worth to change the ES18BPH with 2 x SB15-1 ? if yes, wich one driver mentionated by me ( SN15LF, SD15, SM115K ).
have a great day.
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Beyma SB15 - SN-15LF vs. SM115K - SPL
black = Beyma SB15 - SM115K
grey = Beyma SB15 - SN-15LF

Beyma SB15 - SN-15LF vs. SD15 - SPL
black = Beyma SB15 - SD15
grey = Beyma SB15 - SN-15LF

Beyma SB15 - SN-15LF vs. FL-15LF - SPL
black = Beyma SB15 - FL-15LF
grey = Beyma SB15 - SN-15LF

Beyma SB15 - SN-15LF vs. C-15LF - SPL
black = Beyma SB15 - C-15LF
grey = Beyma SB15 - SN-15LF
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thanx againSmile
one more thing Ibex..
i;ve founded a very very cheap driver. at about 35 Euros.
i'm curious of his plot's in SB15-1 cab. Here are the T/S parameter
FS - 40 hz
Re - 5.5 ohm
Qes - 0.35
Qms - 2.63
Qts - 0.31
Vas - 190 L
Sd - 839 cm2
Xmax - 5 mm
Mms - 80 gr
Bl - 19.2
Le - 1.76
Cms - 0.19 (mm/N)
Rms - 7.96 (kg/s)
Nominal Power - 500 W
Program Power - 1000 W
SPL 1w/1m - 98 db
Frec. response - 40-3000 hz

Voice coil diameter - 75.5 mm
Voice coil material - CU
Former meterial - Al


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Originally posted by KenTech KenTech wrote:

thanx again Ibex.
Maybe i'm asking too much.. but can u post the plot of comparison between 2 x SB15-1 Loaded with Beyma SM115K and ES18BPH loaded with C18ELF, a plot of comparison between 2 x SB15-1 loaded with SD15 ( Paudio ) (http://www.p-audio.co.uk/products/db_product_1_13_sd-15.htm ) and Es18BPH loaded with C18ELF....
i'm trying to make a point of view... does it worth to change the ES18BPH with 2 x SB15-1 ? if yes, wich one driver mentionated by me ( SN15LF, SD15, SM115K ).
have a great day.


Beyma SB15 2x - SM115K vs. ES18-BPH - C-18ELF - SPL
black = Beyma SB15 2x - SM115K
grey = ES18-BPH - C-18ELF

Beyma SB15 2x - SD15 vs. ES18-BPH - C-18ELF - SPL
black = Beyma SB15 2x - SD15
grey = ES18-BPH - C-18ELF
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Originally posted by KenTech KenTech wrote:

thanx againSmile
one more thing Ibex..
i;ve founded a very very cheap driver. at about 35 Euros.
i'm curious of its plot's in SB15-1 cab. Here are the T/S parameter
FS - 40 hz
Re - 5.5 ohm
Qes - 0.35
Qms - 2.63
Qts - 0.31
Vas - 190 L
Sd - 839 cm2
Xmax - 5 mm
Mms - 80 gr
Bl - 19.2
Le - 1.76
Cms - 0.19 (mm/N)
Rms - 7.96 (kg/s)
Nominal Power - 500 W
Program Power - 1000 W
SPL 1w/1m - 98 db
Frec. response - 40-3000 hz

Voice coil diameter - 75.5 mm
Voice coil material - CU
Former meterial - Al


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Originally posted by KenTech KenTech wrote:

thanx againSmile
one more thing Ibex..
i;ve founded a very very cheap driver. at about 35 Euros.
i'm curious of his plot's in SB15-1 cab. Here are the T/S parameter
FS - 40 hz
Re - 5.5 ohm
Qes - 0.35
Qms - 2.63
Qts - 0.31
Vas - 190 L
Sd - 839 cm2
Xmax - 5 mm
Mms - 80 gr
Bl - 19.2
Le - 1.76
Cms - 0.19 (mm/N)
Rms - 7.96 (kg/s)
Nominal Power - 500 W
Program Power - 1000 W
SPL 1w/1m - 98 db
Frec. response - 40-3000 hz

Voice coil diameter - 75.5 mm
Voice coil material - CU
Former meterial - Al


Beyma SB15 2x - KenTech vs. ES18-BPH - C-18ELF - SPL
black = Beyma SB15 2x - KenTech
grey = ES18-BPH - C-18ELF

looks quiet good to me too!
which driver are we talking about?
cheers
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it's one from Bluetech... called LW1503.
at 35E it's SH, but new is about 58-60E/piece.
Please, tell me. The plot's are 1w for C18ELF and 1W for both SB15 ( 0,5W for each one ) , or 1w for each SB15 ( meaning 2w in total ). And, it's in 2 Pi ?
thanx


Edited by KenTech - 05 July 2009 at 3:59pm
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Originally posted by KenTech KenTech wrote:

it's one from Bluetech... called LW1503.
at 35E it's SH, but new is about 58-60E/piece.
Please, tell me. The plot's are 1w for C18ELF and 1W for both SB15 ( 0,5W for each one ) , or 1w for each SB15 ( meaning 2w in total ). And, it's in 2 Pi ?
thanx

HR input data:
- SB15: 1xPi (-> 2 cabs); 2,83V (-> 1W)
- ES-18BPH: 2xPi (-> 1 cab); 2,83V (-> 1W)

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1w in 2 cabs, right ?
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Originally posted by KenTech KenTech wrote:

1w in 2 cabs, right ?


I have to disapoint you, it's unfortunately...

2W/2cabs = 2x 1W/1cab

I think that was my fault Embarrassed
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