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    Posted: 13 August 2009 at 10:03am
Hi

Anyone had any experience in this?

I need to light the exterior of a large mill building, its a four story building, that requires lighting on 3 walls; one is 8m wide, one is 7m and final one is 20m. We are not required to light the entire 20m stretch although it would be good to do if its not too much harder to implement.

The problem is that there are foot paths and roads around the building so i cant position lighting fixture away from the building. My solution is to position the lights from the window ledges of the first floor windows.

What do you think the best way to do this would be?

Any suggestions for the fixtures? i was looking at these http://www.pandahire.co.uk/hire/productview.php?java=true&prodno=497

There is an 1800w version if power is an issue...
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City Colour's are fab lighting up buildings (well they are designed to do that!).
Are the window ledges wide/deep enough to take them and still have the right angle to up light the building?
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no, not really sure what to do about that.

was thinkin bout building some frames that can be secured on the inside of the window frame just by the weight of the fixture on the other side. Il see if i can pop down and get a pic of the building today

Its a listed building so cant do much more then put a couple of safteys in the wall for the fixture.

Do you think 3 of the 1800w city colours would suffice?

what do you think about LED wash's?

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Having used City colours, they rock but you may want to see one before consider flying it. I modded 4 of them to fly but to do a safer job I had to drill holes for M10 bolts in them which isn't an option if they are not yours. THey are quite heavy (maybe 40Kgs) but seem about 60 as they are so akward to move about.
 
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Does it need to be colour changing?And have you got any images of the building?
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You don't really want to be lifting city colours if you can help it, and you definately don't want to be hanging them out of windows with home built frames

They are very bright, you may be surprised at how well they do just at the bottom of the building
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OK so the city colours may be a bit heavy.

Unfortunatly there is no where to put the lights around the bottom of the building.

il go and take a picture in a bit, give you a better idea of the task
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right, i may have underestimated the size of the building.
First off its 5 stories and the widths of the walls are a bit bigger then i estimated.
I dont think its going to be easy...

I didnt resize the first 2 images to show some details

Here is an image of the entrance, this side shouldnt be too dificult
to position lights on. There are rails and walls i could use.



The other walls will be a bit harder




they are not that fussed if the long back wall gets done.


Any thoughts?

could have a single colour going up from the 1st floor window ledges on the phone box side using light wieght wash lights and gels.
Then do something a bit fancy round the other side to brighten up that entrance a bit

Its for an open studios event where local creative-sorts display their work

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How long do you have to light it for?  Would you be allowed to fix anything to the building (ie drill into the masonry?)

You could consider using some LED battens (really good ones!)

It sounds like you're not used to doing this kind of job, you might be better bringing some assistance from a lighting company who own the kind of fixtures you need for this job.

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take a look at liteled.com
 
 
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Correct, i won’t be attempting to undertake by myself; I have someone who is experienced on the job with me.

I just like explore it a bit myself to get an idea of the area. Rather than having to follow blindly. I study aspects of light and lighting at uni so it’s not completely new to me.

It’s a 3 day event but the lighting is only really required for one night.

My initial thought was use decent led bars. Il have a look into it. Cheers
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id personally think the only safe way of doing this is to drill and mount light weight floods at 1st floor height - either LED or gelled halogen/discharge ones. Dont place anything on the pavement or telephone box, is council land, requiring permissions, and would only get knicked regardless.

dont forget the installation must all be IP44 rated, dont want rain stopping play!!
 
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