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airbell
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Posted: 28 September 2009 at 1:46am |
I know this is an old topic and a lot of people have a lot of different opinions about maybe...
and sry i dont have so much experience in practical way yet. but in my case im still considering what is the "best" bass system, when u r looking for a portable pa mainly for rock concerts/bands outdoor... sound pressure IS an important thing for me. -->some 18inch basshorn like mse-118(max. 4 cabs, or 3+usb) -->lab sub with usb(max. 3 cabs+usb) -->or big 12pi sub with usb(max. 2 cabs+usb) ??? i know in stacks of four u got more low extension with the lab or 12pi around 32-33hz but i think its not so necessary for bands to go soooo low... at least the deep "d" on a bass is around 37,xx hz i think. 1850 are not low enough for my taste.and maybe not clean enough(?). Thx! |
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toastyghost
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Get the EM MSE-118 Quakes. Four of them. You will not be disappointed.
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Low B on a 5-string is 31hz.
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Mark James
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and low e is 41/42hz from memory |
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me so horny me love you long throw
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dj-panoramix
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what's big 12PI ?
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skippyboy
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google is your friend
http://www.pispeakers.com/Hornsub.html |
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airbell
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yes maybe low b is 31,5hz but i dont want to make a pa system for korn^^
yes it would definitely asks for the 12pi or lab sub to go soo deep. i dont have enough money to buy the original EM MSE-118 Subs. But great to hear they are good cabs! Can u say LAB/12pi is more for electronic stuff and some long 18"horns are better for live/rock and for a great deep bassdrum kick or is it bullsh*t and both will work great? What is about the spl? saw a plot of the LAB and it was quite under 100dB 1w/1m..? MSE-118 has 105dB average |
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MarjanM
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Where did you see a plot for lab showing that under 100db response?
It should be around 107db mark. |
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Marjan Milosevic
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airbell
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http://www.prosoundweb.com/lsp/response1.gif
Yes maybe at 90hz...but beyond 50 hz where is the "real" sub bass section it got less than 100dB@1cab 1w/1m.. Simulated other designs which gave quite more output around 40hz ect.. I think LAB is a great cab,in huge stacks its might be awesome, just wondered about the "low" subbass spl from 1 cab in comparison with some other 18inch horns. i dont have capaticy for 6 or 8 subs per side. |
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airbell
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capacity sry
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toastyghost
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The LAB is not designed to be used with a single cabinet, minimum 4 stacked together really.
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