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king david
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yes! thats why i built es18 bph!
but first, 15"reflex is tried and tested solution since a long time, and many sounds still use them with good results, it sounds good, nice sound for dub/roots, no need for extreme kick
second...natty would use the upper bass at 100hz and more, no need for a big box as usb/es18/turbosound tse118... i cross my hogs to es18 at 70hz, maximum 80hz, i wouldnt use it for 100hz and above, its a waste of good bass bin(imo), while a simpler, smaller box would be easier to build & move and cheaper to load
remember its not about ideal upper bass bin but what its better for nattys soundsystem.
also he uses b&c drivers, i dont know if they fit in the es18/usb/turbo style cabs
last one from me, today i had free time(thats why so many posts by me) and built a 12"reflex with 1"horn above, for monitor use. it took 2 hours, now i can just wait for the glue to dry and play some music... if u are in a hurry, reflex wins everytime...
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bitzo
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Sorry but I don't get the point.
I mean you get the real ts parameters (from this guy that do this job) then sim a cab with this parameters. then build the same cab simmed, and load this cab with the measured driver. then measure the spl of this cab. In this way you obtain the difference between simming and real measurement. that's real scientific truth that not belongs from personal tastes, just from measurement instruments. however the tastes are tastes (i gusti son gusti). Edited by bitzo - 22 February 2010 at 2:16pm |
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silworm
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natty, do you know what speakers King Shiloh is currently using? I've seen a recent flyer and it seems they're using some kind of horn but I couldn't figure out which...
I'm in the same position as you and would prefer to build simple reflex but don't want to regret it later on... |
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SebP
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_Natty_
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bitzo
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18sound cab without pushpull effect.
http://www.eighteensound.com/staticContent/applications/kits/18Sound_kit15_dual.pdf |
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_Natty_
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no! both speakers are front loaded!
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bitzo
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yup...no pushpull effect... :) reverse driver and wiring |
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_Natty_
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any one have tested this before?
http://www.bcspeakers.com/suggested.php?id=0000000007 maybe i can build something like a double box reversed like the shilo's mid bass.. |
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king david
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if you plan to use b&c sub15 as bass bin for small parties + kick bin for your full sound, thats a good idea.
if you plan to have a kick bin and stop, then i suggest you a midbass driver, not a sub. it would be more efficient in a reflex box in the 100/200hz range and sound would be better
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silworm
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@Natty: I know Dub Tribulation outta Sweden use the BCSub 215 which is the double version of BCSub.
@King David: Which of the B&C drivers would you reckon to work good as a midbass driver? In your opinion, would the PD1550 or PD156 work well in this box? |
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levyte357
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PD1550 is a filthy beast, especially in right horn cab. Ask Shant-I.. |
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