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12v anyone?
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One Eyed Monster in sketchup: click here to download

Edited by djyves - 30 May 2010 at 6:12pm
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does somebody have the hornresp input data, or can somebody tell me how to calculate them in this design?
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Originally posted by joshd963 joshd963 wrote:

12v anyone?

in 12" would probably be immense down to 60hz.
REFLEX ALL THE WAY.... (however, im playing with horns again...) That ok Mister Valiant? :)
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how would a jbl 2242 work in this?  
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I got the impression that any driver would be in control, just keep power down.
Gotta send the Fane back this week, I'll try a 186 for fun.
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My GUESS at hornresp inputs:



Note Le is unknown - I believe this can make a fair bit of difference in a tapped horn.

Nice design Stipe! Like the handle positioning. I've been wanting to do something like this in a 12" version but mine would sacrifice some max output in favour of a little low extension.

This cab seems to have excellent excursion control above 45Hz. I know it's weird but I've got a suspicion that high excursion control at tuning frequency might be what killed my Ciare 12SW (end of coil sitting outside the gap at high power so not much movement to allow cooling). I wonder whether underhung coils (XBL^2?) would get the most from tapped horns?


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im looking at a very high excursion car audio driver for this exact reason.  not underhung, but a 15mm top plate should help get some more heat away.  
REFLEX ALL THE WAY.... (however, im playing with horns again...) That ok Mister Valiant? :)
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"I know it's weird but I've got a suspicion that high excursion control at tuning frequency might be what killed my Ciare 12SW (end of coil sitting outside the gap at high power so not much movement to allow cooling)."

Look a bit like this, did it?



" I wonder whether underhung coils (XBL^2?) would get the most from tapped horns?"

Run the numbers and see.

http://pasub.com/PASUB460.pdf

5" coil, 20mm underhung x-max.

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better late than never;  

Originally posted by jollygt78 jollygt78 wrote:

why are the fane drivers so hard to find in the USA, or am i missing something. 


Give this guy a call, he's a real ace. Kinda weird... but really knows his sh1t.


http://www.usspeaker.com/homepage.htm


He carries several fanes.
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Originally posted by Xmax extreme Xmax extreme wrote:

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Originally posted by heinrich heinrich wrote:

since I can't hear this on paper, what about posting HORNRESPONSE plots so we would also know how this thing plays compared to the recent ones (ex. MS18, es18bph, microscoop).....

sorry, I dont trust your earsWink

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Welcome back bai!!!! For sure we can see your turbosound system right now... Big smile when will we visit
 your place? 

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AMAZINGLY NICE STAIPE!!!ClapClapClap
 
This is pretty interesting..Im gonna try to build one just to hear it, I dont rely much on sims, ears are better..xmax/heirich you are welcome to visit my place for you to hear it.Wink
Great work Staipe!!!


Edited by streetsounds - 06 June 2010 at 4:36am
Bass matters...
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Originally posted by The Builder The Builder wrote:

I got the impression that any driver would be in control, just keep power down.
Gotta send the Fane back this week, I'll try a 186 for fun.
Nick

Already tried the 186?


Edited by djyves - 13 June 2010 at 5:38pm
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