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bassmish
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Posted: 02 July 2010 at 7:51pm |
HELLO! - I haven't been on here for ages!
I'm about to move into a new house and am trying to sort out the internet. Just spoke to the new landlord and he has worries about letting virgin or someone else install things in his house and messing up the walls. He mentioned the possibility of getting a wireless modem so there would be no need for drilling of new holes. I've never heard of these and have no experience of whether they're any good. I really don't want some shitty connection where I can't stream things or download anything without waiting for hours (which will be made worse by the fact that there's gonna be 6 of us all using the net at once) SO... Has anyone here had any experience with wireless modems that might be useful? Any advice would be very much appreciated! CHEERS |
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shagnasty
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If it has Netgear on it -BIN IT!!!
Blow a few quid on a Linksys WRT54G or if you go for the faster Virgin a 108mb one but bear in mind most laptops only run 54G @ the min, virgin will give you a D-Link that is good for £20 when you sell it on Ebay...
Get a decent PCI wireless Lan card for your desktop and away you go. Don't mess with WEP or WSP coding one the router leave it open but use MAC locking (use ipconfig /all from the dos prompt to find your MAC address) to control who can talk to it and hide the SSD of the wireless once you are done (this won't work with iPhone they don't find hidden networks too well) but MAC locking is secure and doesn't transmit loads shit that lowers your bandwidth.
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bassmish
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are you talking about wireless routers shagnasty?
Is there any way we can have the internet without getting cables installed in the house? |
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The Builder
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If your LAndlord does not want cables:
Is there a phone line? If so plug a router into it and have non cable ADSL. Normal Broadband.
If not there are some dongle routers out there, madness IMHO, never as good.
So to answer your question, unless you want to share a crappy 3G type signal (mobile bb) then you have to get the dsl/adsl into the building via cables, either Virgin/NTL which means holes, or adsl using phone line which is hopefully installed.
Zen/Fast/O2 and even BTseem to be OK ish nowadays. IMO, Orange and TalkTalk don't deserve your money.
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shagnasty
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Yeah, my bad, was thinking you are allowed an internet entry point but no further cabling... If you don't have a BT line or a virgin (cable) point then you can just use a 3G card, I have a 7Mb Voda PCMCIA card that rocks, the USB dongles suck on many count but you can get a vigour router that lets you plug in a dongle then run WiFi from there, this can be quite cost effective you have naff all line rental ( my 3Gb per month card is only £15 pcm) datawise their is only Vodafone, the rest are hopers and pretenders but you have no option for a fixed IP (you can use no-ip.org or similar but that is sub-optimal) and if you don't have good Voda 3G ("4G") you are into one of the tier 2 providers and all the crap that comes with that.
Main point is if you are a heavy user ( i move over 18Gb per month, mainly over VPN) 3G is not a cost option.
If you are in a Virgin Area I would approach your lanlord and say you will have the service installed as a single outlet, straight thru the wall 150mm above skirting height and WiFi from there, internet is a selling point on a rentable property and lack of it is a £40 PCM of rental price issue.
I won't tolerate BT, SKY or Virgin on any of my properites but I have cabled them in such a way that any of the above can push signals to any room from the loft which has a 75mm riser to it.
If you need ADSL then Plusnet rock, massively, shoul you sign up quote pulsardesign@plus.net as refferal and I get a few pence per month but they have UK customer support, free fixed IP and generally just work well. Pipex or Viatel are also good, tiscali, bt, sky, talktalk an o2 are about as much use as a caramel speakon connector......
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The Builder
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Pipex are no longer good. They are under the Talk Talk hand of **** now.
100% no.
Plusnet is BT controlled IIRC?
Zen and Fast 100% service, BT business have been great latley, although their billing dept are awful IMO.
BT Home have asian cal centre, BUT, these seem to be trained in understanding profiles etc.
O2 seem to vary, not had 1st hand experience, some people say thay are good on here though.
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bassmish
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thanks guys. need to have a chat with landlord. no internet sucks!!
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AudioAddictz
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do you know how easy that set up would be to hack with a linux distro called backtrack 4 you can watch the airwaves and even see routers that have hiden there ssid you can see the routers mac address and the mac address of those connected to it simple case for the hacker to change there mac id to match that of one already attached to the router and hay presto .. access and also i have to say ive set up a lot of routers and net gear have been one of the most reliable makes i have used , although i do agree the linksys routers are pritty good too
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Reality .. It might look the same but it dont taste the same
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shagnasty
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Anything short of full RADIUS cntrolled access is hackable, yes you could set a card to promiscuous mode, scan and then close a MAC address, you can also force a window and plug a network cable in which is a sight quicker.
Point is a combination of hidden SSId and MAC locking is fast and reasonably safe.
If you have the reliable netgears that explains why every one I have ever seen (I mean the white domestic tat here, not the blue ones) is slow, won't port forward reliably and is general bin fonder.
Its horses for courses but Linksys cost no more than netgear and stripe them for reliability and thru-put.
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AudioAddictz
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i agree its more secure than no protection at all
but why make it easy for them wpa2 encryption , mac address locking and hide the ssid thats what i use and i run a lot of services from my network and im useing a netgear router right now not had one bit of trouble with port forwarding but like you say its horses for corses i would rather spend the extra time making sure my network was as secure as possible |
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Reality .. It might look the same but it dont taste the same
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The Builder
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Turns out the home hub was in the window, wpa code facing out! Kids must have loved it
Proper hacking........
Edit. As the wife just put it, cyber scrumping!!!!!! Edited by The Builder - 06 July 2010 at 9:48am |
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shagnasty
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100gb in a month on a Bt line???? So she it the one with all their bandwidth!
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