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Captain Caveman 
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 Topic: Decwares wicked one sub...Posted: 28 March 2006 at 4:26pm |
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what do people think of using these as sub bass under hd's? the plan they show not the variable you can buy. |
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james folkes
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 4:57pm |
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right...
i think you'll find that rich and i are probably the only people who use these for pa, and possibly ever will. it is a 4th order horn hybrid, like the hd15, the f218, the infrahorn etc. and tuned rather low. the ultimate problem with decware is the rather unscientific nature of much of the driver application and box design. never the less the standard wicked one (not the 32) is a hilariously good box. i was proper sceptical of them but i have grown to love the old prototype 12"s that rich made and reckon the weight and authority to our bass stack is down to these beauts. when testing with bryan dirtsoundboy, a few 30 Hz jungle bass lines confirmed their ability to move air down low and i just love the way it thuds away in such a clean and precise way. i reckon it's a damn good sub to try under hd15s. if you are really interested in hearing them, pm me and we'll get together with kit and kaboodle. james. |
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 5:25pm |
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yum yum
call you when im near a phone lol |
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ceharden
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 6:00pm |
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A candidate box for the PD12SB30 or Ciare 12"?
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james folkes
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 7:36pm |
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ours are loaded with beyma lx60 and eminence omega pros respectively. if
we can arrive at a satisfactory way of modelling it those would be nice drivers to try, especially the ciare with it's bruiser cone and super long travel. however unscientificaly we may or may not have arrived at it, it is a wicked little box that makes large quantities of surprisingly low bass. i think if honed to the right drivers it'd be a serious contender. as i said, there's other boxes that work in this manner, it uses flavour of the month 12" drivers in a compact and logical layout, you know it makes sense... james. |
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tb_mike
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 8:15pm |
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Im sure some one could model it up in FEA if they were really keen,or make an electro-acoustic simulation in spice :-P
Or just try it,measure impedence vs frequency and FR and see what happens :-) Id be keen after some one does some measurements,I dont have the gear. |
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tb_mike
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 8:31pm |
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interesting! Attempted to follow plans. Will work out areas.
Area throat chamber : 1413cm^2 (not sure of depth yet) 
Front chamber is about 35l  Edited by tb_mike - 28 March 2006 at 9:01pm |
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Jimbo
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 9:20am |
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I'd love to see this modeled. Looks like an easy build if you get the "boom for the buck"! Jim |
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:55am |
I did a VERY rough approximation of it a couple of years ago. Result? VERY RESONANT PIPE 45hz cutoff 95dB type of sensitivity. Im keen to take a more accurate look though. Be aware that miracles dont happen.
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:13am |
mate, i'm gonna get around to building one of these sometime in april so you can have a listen to that. Prob be loading it with fairly cheap drivers to start off though. edit-if you do arrange to listen to james, i'd like to tag along cos i want to hear em with them there beymas Edited by ashnono - 29 March 2006 at 11:15am |
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:21am |
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Not looking for a miracle, just an easy build. Depends on the plots if the compromise would be worth considering. Jim |
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james folkes
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:42am |
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be aware you need to tilt the baffle to fit 12" drivers into that footprint...
i posted a picture of it somewhere on the site, i would do it again but it entails logging out of safari and in with firefox so i shan't bother just yet. if anyone is interested feel free to pm me. james. |
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