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EQ Advice! Ashly GQX-3102 or BSS Opal FCS-966
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    Posted: 25 December 2011 at 12:36am
all of this discussion between two specific types of Graphic EQ's and no mention of the classic Klark Teknik DN27's which have proper individual passive filters for each band... these have become something of an industry standard from when they were first available
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Ah the ADF4k, been after one for a while. I'd like to see how it handles.

The KT stuff is lovely though. And you're right the majority of 2nd hand BSS do have faults but I think that could be down to the sheer number of them about. I do often wonder why the Ashlys were never so mainstream, I wonder if it was original purchase price or lack of marketting.


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Haven't used the Ashly, but have several of the BSS units and have always liked them.   Broken faders seem to be a common problem with the 966, have seen many like that over the years, although ours don't get dry hired so possibly get treated with more tlc, and all faders & knobs still intact!
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I have to say for £100 each I'd go Ashley in a second, the lot of 966s I bought were £250 each and all had bust cadets ( apparently comon, but not to me) so the Ashley is a much better deal, cost aside, DN410, adf4000 or if you really don't understand EQ and want it clumsy, a DN 360, but TBH graphs are dead, para every tone for me!!!

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I've used upto -12db at 3.15k in a stone church once. Sorted it right out.
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Originally posted by OllieMan OllieMan wrote:

I love the Ashleys!
The have up to 16db of gain reduction, do the BSS do this much?
 
Do you have kit that sounds so bad it needs -16dB?? on a graphic that is gonna punch a MASSIVE hole in your frequency response, prob better using a para on the LMS or inserting a dn-410...
 
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Originally posted by OllieMan OllieMan wrote:

I love the Ashleys!
The have up to 16db of gain reduction, do the BSS do this much?

Genuine units are easy to find, you just by from the US!



theres got to be something SERIOUSLY wrong to need -16db on an EQ... i EQ in the +-6db range when i can and thats still plenty Confused
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I liked the 966, thought it had a pleasing colouration to the sound too.

I preferred it as a FOH EQ for sculpting rather than cutting notches on wedges.


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I love the Ashleys!
The have up to 16db of gain reduction, do the BSS do this much?

Genuine units are easy to find, you just by from the US!
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i've never used ashley (or heard ofEmbarrassed) but i'd consider the BSS 960 as well as the 966 maybe you should dry hire some in to see what you prefere

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You have to be very carefull at the moment buying Ashley gear as it is one of the ranges of gear that the Chinese have decided to clone---Lots of it about but very few genuine--bit like the Shure SM58 cloning problem---They are made to look the same in all respects but they certainly do not sound the same.
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I picked up all my Ashleys for about £100 each! That said I've had the opposite results, the Ashleys seem to sound better than the Opals when you move more than a few faders. Other than that I've not noticed any differences. Occasionally I do get engineers asking for the BSS when I've taken the Ashlys out but most soon accept them when they use them. They just need reassuring that they're just as good/better. It's weird how they just accept the speakers though knowing their our own design.

As for not really using eqs, how do you eq for a venue then? Our system in a good room is fairly flat.


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