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this is a different issue marjan, any driver not put under stress will last longer and sound better..... but in the diy world is the extra £100 for a 600w driver that will only get 400w max be value for money or even be cost effective....... 
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Bee, the new SN12MB is not a very expensive driver. And to be honest, for 6 boxes (3 per side) that will cover most of what diy people would be able to do, 600 bucks more to make them better and louder then the competitors boxes is something worth investing in. 
At least as i am thinking anyway.
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B&C 12HPL76 12 inch NEO woofers
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B&C 12HPL76 12 inch NEO woofers is that good woofer for the mt121
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true margan but how loud do we need to go, its ok having massive spl but can you use cabs to this level..... So many venues these days have strict noise levels, The only legal venues that you could get away with using this kind of spl in my area is about 0......  lol..... having the spl if you need it is allways a nice feeling but in truth how many of us use it...... that kind of spl from a top cab would need just as much from the kick sections and sub sections to keep a level system....

From a better 12" horn were the dispertion is better and you could get away with using one a side then 600w drivers start to come into there own.....Wink but this is not a diy thing, as most people wont attempt glass horns, bungs etc....

from the specs it looks like a nice driver, i may get one and have a play......
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Originally posted by UpComingSound UpComingSound wrote:

B&C 12HPL76 12 inch NEO woofers is that good woofer for the mt121

you can horn load this speaker, but its more suited to kick or high sub......
look for a higher fs driver.....
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No SPL limits here Bee :-)
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Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Sure that is all fine with me. Just the 600W driver will have a nice and comfortable life :-)
+1 for that especialy when you get more than 4 big outing per mounth with your rig. l think the high power drivers go with how much you charge per outing as in proper tools are allways expensive
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Originally posted by bee bee wrote:

this is a different issue marjan, any driver not put under stress will last longer and sound better..... but in the diy world is the extra £100 for a 600w driver that will only get 400w max be value for money or even be cost effective....... 
the bandwidth of this design is 'midrange', so the cone won't hardly be moving. Why would you want to use 600 watts
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Originally posted by mykey- mykey- wrote:

Originally posted by bee bee wrote:

this is a different issue marjan, any driver not put under stress will last longer and sound better..... but in the diy world is the extra £100 for a 600w driver that will only get 400w max be value for money or even be cost effective....... 
the bandwidth of this design is 'midrange', so the cone won't hardly be moving. Why would you want to use 600 watts

Because 600W will be 3db louder then 300W maybe?
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Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:


Originally posted by mykey- mykey- wrote:


Originally posted by bee bee wrote:

this is a different issue marjan, any driver not put under stress will last longer and sound better..... but in the diy world is the extra £100 for a 600w driver that will only get 400w max be value for money or even be cost effective....... 
the bandwidth of this design is 'midrange', so the cone won't hardly be moving. Why would you want to use 600 watts


Because 600W will be 3db louder then 300W maybe?
+1 for that and more clearer than 300watts
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clearer.........  watts wont make a driver sound clearer, thats what the engineers job is....... more watts does not make a driver better than a 300w one...... an efficient 300w driver will out perform a very poor efficient 600w driver........
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