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RealitySound
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XMAX(7+) BL(24+) QES(-.35) QTS (-.35) VAS(-360) FS(-35) RMS
(18sound) 18LW1400 9 24.7 .31 .29 297 31 1000W 18lw2400 9.5 25.6 .32 .31 230 35 1200W 18NLW9601 14 31 .3 .28 120 39 1800W 18ND9300 9.5 24.4 .29 .28 316 30 1000W 18W1000 7 24.7 .24 .23 268 35 1000W B&C TBX100 9 25.5 .37 .35 212 34 1200W B&C DS115 16.5 39 .21 .2 168 30 1700W Beyma18G50 9 28.8 .334 .325 212 40 750W Beyma18G550 9 24.4 .385 .37 210 36 900W Beyma18P1000 8 26 .37 .36 245 32 1000W Beyma18p1200ND 9.5 26.3 .35 .34 198 37 1200W Beyma18SW1600Nd 10 29 .34 .33 205 32 1600W CelestionCF18VJD 9 30.54 .315 .305 164 33 1600W Em Definimax4018 7.9 27 .36 .35 238 32 800W Em Impero18C 8.13 16.1 .35 .34 317 31.5 1200W Em OmegaproA&C 4.8 18.8 .32 .31 548 25 800W Em Sigma 6.1 22.1 .3 .29 441 28 650W EV-EVX180B 6.4 22.5 .29 .27 416 29 600W FaitalPro18hp1020 9.5 27.2 .29 .28 219 35 1000W FaitalPro18xl1600 13 28.1 .37 .36 195.5 32 1600W FANEcol-1500 12.75 32.75 .26 .25 175 33.5 1500W FANEcolPrimeXS 12 22.4 .404 .385 257 33 1200W FANEcol18SB 8.25 24 .366 .346 199 36 1000W FANEcol18XB 7.5 25.9 .358 .337 236 33 1000W JBL 2242 9 23.7 .29 .29 283 35 800W PD1850 11.25 31 .22 .21 249 30 800W PD1851 12 31 .3 .29 182 34 1000W PD186 9 22.94 .326 .312 353 27 700W PeaveyLOWMAX 8.25 25 .33 .32 295 33.5 1200W RCF LF18N401 8.8 27.8 .27 .26 257 32 1200W RCF LF18X451 13.5 30.5 .29 .28 220 30 1800W RCF,LF18G400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W RCF,LF18P400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W RCF,L18P300 7.8 23.5 .34 .33 226 33 1000W RCF,LF18X400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W Turbomax 1500M3 12.75 35.39 .218 .208 184.95 28.59 1500W Turbomax 1800 14.1 34.03 .201 .1944 233.57 25.43 1800W TurbomaxB1000 12.5 24.56 .3951 .3694 238.44 30.7 1000W VOID 10.5 34.8 .22 .22 201 34 1000W Edited by RealitySound - 14 October 2017 at 11:49pm |
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When you gonna send me some $$ mate ?
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mini-mad
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...see... now THAT'S a chart
A massive thank you for this beautiful little table of data |
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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.
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Tonskulus
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Someone told to forget cerwinvega drivers, why is that? Few cv driver specs seems to be well in the limits - even more than some 1860's like having huge BL of over 50, xmax 19mm etc.. well those drivers are not commerically available however, just wondering about scoops equipped with such a monster horn-drivers like L-1816 :)
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mini-mad
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I read somewhere also that the peavey black widows (certain ones anyway) are fantastic when horn loaded! Might be worth a little shout for lower powered scoops (?)
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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.
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MarjanM
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Link to the spec?
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Marjan Milosevic
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Tonskulus
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Couldn't find more specs now, but this:
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BJtheDJ
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That link does not work for me and checking their webpage at https://www.gearsourceeurope.com/catalog/brands I cannot see CV listed there |
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If your vaccinations were mandatory and nobody in your class had measles,
then you know that you're not a Millenial kid.</f |
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Tonskulus
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MarjanM
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BL of 52 out of that small magnet? No way.
Edited by MarjanM - 04 October 2017 at 9:19am |
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Marjan Milosevic
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Tonskulus
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Magnet size will say nothing about BL. I have seen huge magnet drivers having really low BL, and small magnet drivers having high BL factor. It is all about the actual voicecoil and magnet design / structure that makes the total BL. In the past, I had Cerwinvega XL18s driver, magnet was moderate size. BL was measured well over 30. Once I took off the dust cup and there was really really small gap / clearance beetween the coil and center pole! Propably 0.2mm or so. Less clearance = more BL. Oh man that driver was fast and accurate and made lots of SPL in std BR enclosure. I really miss it. T&S parameters were pretty weird, I put those parameters to my enclosure sim and it gave optimum sealed box volume of something like 15 liters :D If I can find one, I will surely test it with a scoop! Edited by Tonskulus - 04 October 2017 at 10:11am |
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Crashpc
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Don't forget that BL doesn't tell full story about speaker power and power output. For pure force factor,you need to use (Bl*Bl)/Re as voice coil resistance and thus current and actual power flowing trough will change the outcome. Also Bl across the coil excursion can vary a lot. Same as suspension compliance, taking out some performance from the motor. So small signal value measurement wont tell you usable truth eiter. Here is where Klippel comes in, providing additional data. But it takes even more to properly evaluate speaker capabilities. On top of that, the enclosure has the final word. Bl is good, but cannot stay alone in the evaluation process.
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Nikon and Canon people should not be married to each other. Why did you let this happen?
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MarjanM
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I was just surprised that CV would be able to make such driver, that is all.
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Marjan Milosevic
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