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    Posted: 14 July 2012 at 4:26pm
quote from 1850 plan- "PD 1850 and other drivers with an EBP over 125 and BL's over 28. For drivers with EBP's around 110 or lower use the 186 horn." Green is somewhere in between. Brown have the high EBP, but the BL is less than 28.

                            XMAX/     BL         /   QES        / QTS          / VAS           /FS       / RMS/      EBP

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18LW2400              9.5           25.6        .32           .31              230             35     1200W       109.4
18W2000                 7            27.1        .26            .25              230             37    1200W       142.3
18NLW9600            14            30          .29            .28              149             34    1800W       117.2
18W1000                7             24.7        .24           .23               268            35     1000W       145
18LW1250               9             23.6        .28           .27              268             35     1000W      134.6
18LW1400               9             24.7       .31            .29              297             31    1000W       100
18ND9300              9.5           24.4       .29            .28              316             30     1000W       103.4

B&C TBX100            9             25.5       .37            .35              212             34    1200W        91.8
B&C18PZB100          8              26        .25            .24              297             30     700W         120
B&C18NW100           9              28        .27             .26             252             31     1200W       114
B&C18SW115          14           30.3        .32             .3              187             32     1700W        100

Beyma18G550         9             24.4       .
385          .37              210             36     900W          93
Beyma18P1000        8              26         .37            .36             245              32    1000W         86
Beyma18SW1600Nd 10            29          .34           .33             205              32   1600W          94

Beyma18G50           9            28.8       .334           .325            212             40     750W         119.7
Beyma18p1200ND  9.5            26.3       .35            .34             198              37   1200W         105.7

BMS18S430v2          8             23.5        .36           .34             262              31   1200W          86 
BMS18N850v2          13           26.2        .36           .34             247            29.7   1200W         82.5

CelestionCF18VJD     9            30.54       .315         .305           164              33    1600W         104.7

Em Definimax4018  7.9            27         .36            .35             238              32    800W            88.8
Em Impero18C        8.13         16.1        .35            .34            317              31.5 1200W           90
Em Sigma               6.1           22.1        .3              .29             441             28     650W           93
Em OmegaproA&C   4.8           18.8       .32             .31             548             25     800W           78

FaitalPro18xl1600     13            28.1      
.37            .36             195.5           32     1600W         86
FP18HP1040            9.5           24.5         .35           .34             196             38      1000W        108.5
FP18HP1060           12.45         24.8       .38             .37             175             35      1200W        92
FP18HP1020            9.5            28          .28            .27             207             35      1000W       125

FANEcol-1500        12.75         32.75     .26             .25              175           33.5     1500W       128.8
FANEcolPrimeXS     12              22.4     .404            .385            257            33       1200W        81.6
FaneCol18B600       7.2           25.25     .245            .236           354            29        600W         118.3
FaneCol18B800       7.2           25.25     .245            .236           354            32        800W         130.6
FANEcol18SB          8.25           24       
.366            .346           199            36        1000W        98.3
FANEcol18XB          7.5            25.9      .358            .337           236            33        1000W         92

JBL 2242                  9             23.7      .29              .29             283            35         800W        120

PD1850                 11.25          31        .22              .21             249            30        800W         136
PD1851                  12              31         .3              .29             182             34       1000W        113
PD186                     9            22.94      .326           .312            353
            27        700W         82.8
PD188                      6           26.59      .289           .28              224            37         600W        139

PeaveyLOWMAX       8.25           25          .33            .32            295            33.5     1200W       101.5

RCFL18P300            7.8             23.5        .34            .33            226             33       1000W        97

RCF LF18X451         13.5           30.5        .29            .28             220            30        1800W       103

RCF LF18N401          8.8            27.8       .27           .26              257             32        1200W     118.5
RCF,LF18G400          9              24.2        .29            .27             360            28        1000W       96.6
RCF,LF18X400           9             24.2         .29           .27             360             28       1000W       96.6
RCF,L18p200-N
         9.8           23.1       .32            .31             380             28        800W        87.5
RCF,LF18P400           9             24.2         .29           .27             360             28       1000W        96.6
 


TurbomaxB1000     12.5          24.56       .3951       .3694           238.44        30.7    1000W      77.7
Turbomax 1500M3 12.75         35.39      .218          .208           184.95       28.59     1500W      131.1
Turbomax 1800      14.1          34.03      .201          .1944          233.57       25.43    1800W      126.5

VOID                     10.5            34.8       .22             .22              201            34       1000W     154.5


I just modded the list of scoop compatible drivers- http://forum.speakerplans.com/topic65235_post674154.html#674154 and worked out the EBP's

Does this seem accurate?


Edited by RealitySound - 25 July 2012 at 3:44pm
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How high does the BL for the 186 cab have to be? (The 186 driver's BL is 22.94.)
How low can the EBP be for the 186 cab (before it starts to suck for the cab) (The 186's EBP is 82.)
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Surely the VAS parameters must have some impact of the cabs performance. What is a good VAS to have for the 186 cab? Approx?
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have you looked at the pd 188 ebp of 133.6 and bl of 26.59?? i am wondering how they would perform in 1850/186 cab??
there is probably a good reason (which i havent herd about!!) as to why they are not mentioned?? but they are cheeper than the 186 and seem better suited to the horn on paper anyway???
i know they 100w less than 186 but would think bout 800w in each bin would still have good effect!! any thoughts??
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yeah sure, horn resp says it would work, has a nice curve, stays within xmax. sorry i cant post the horn resp screens atm. but yeah looks good, should sound good!

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@Teeboy, added PD 188 Thumbs Up
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great work on compiling this chart mate.  Smile

have you had any experience with any of these drivers in the 186 ??
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Originally posted by teeboy teeboy wrote:

great work on compiling this chart mate.  Smile

have you had any experience with any of these drivers in the 186 ??
 
Not yet. I do have all intentions of building some in the near future mind you. I also do have quite a bit of drivers to compare in them. Of course I will share my findings. Hoping to try modding the cab a bit too.


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sounds good mate, you'll have to keep us posted on how it go's.

 think i decided to go for the pd 186 in mine now, purely because some people ill be putting in with got 186 in their bins, so it'll all match up when it used together, and none of the drivers will work against one another.

if it wasn't for that probably would have looked for a second hand pd188 to try in one!! Smile
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So I am planning to build some 186s with Faital Pro W18N8-1000s.  The BL is just shy of 28, at 27.6, but it seems that when I simulate in Hornresp, that the driver will behave almost identically in either the 1850 or 186 horn.  Seems like there is xmax trouble at about 550watts, unless I up the compression ratio (cut a smaller baffle hole) to about 3:1, and then I lose some low extension but can push with 850 watts, and get more than 140dbs with four.  Any thoughts?

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Originally posted by RealitySound RealitySound wrote:

 
VOID                     10.5            34.8       .22             .22              201            34       1000W     154.5



What is this magic ?!?

but seriously whats the brand of this driver? ld like to find out :)
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http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=VODV181000
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