void infinite 8 v2 WANTED

I have seen different Crown Macrotechs (not 5000 though, never used / seen one actually), Crest CAs, 9001, Lab Gruppens, Voids, older Powersofts, Behringers, PSL, T.amp Prolines, QSCs etc behaving badly. What does that mean? They're all crap or they're all serious touring grade stuff? Can you always blame the product itself?

I've had different problems with Midas XL console, Behringer consoles, Soundcraft consoles, Allen & Heaths, Yamaha consoles (analog & digital), Studer Vista, Harrison Trion, Crests etc... Our Cadac J is quite high mainteinance beast too. Most problems with these consoles have been quite small, but every once in a while you come across quite unworkable console. Does this mean these all are proper heavy weight stuff or flimsiest amateur crap? Can you always blame the product itself?

I've had Void passive crossover drop its capacitors during transit. I've seen many Meyer powered loudspeakers go wrong. I've seen F1 R4 8" driver and F221 21" driver going faulty in a system tuned and setup by Newsh. Can you always blame the product itself?

I have had problems with Klark, DBX, TC, XTA, Behringer, LA Audio etc rack gear also...

I don't get it how sometimes manufacturers get so much hate in here. I know Inf8mk2s that are constantly on road and doing just fine. Few channels of my own Inf5mk1s tend to fall asleep sometimes, that is mostly solved by now though.

There are gazillion different users, circumstances and gear combinations and requirements that play part in these things.

levyte357- wrote: Head, bang, wall, against.

Yes, that is rather often what these sorts of threads feel like.

levyte357- wrote: It's been a few years since I heard about a "Modern" QSC, Crown, Crest, Powersoft, LabG, blow "AND"  take out all connected drivers with them.

And I've seen Infinite 8 v2s dead for all sorts of reasons, but only once have drivers been killed at the same time and that was due to a faulty cable. In fact, bar that edge case, other drivers I've seen fail when connected to an Inf 8 v2 have all passed away from having the coil cooked due to being given too much average power.

I do think that the jump from the 0dB light and the way the L light operates gives way too much leeway in terms of people not understanding how far they can push their kit, and this is something I'd change if I was in charge of the development of a revision or a new version, but this isn't something the amp is to blame for - operators should have limiters setup properly to prevent killing things if they're not able to hear the drivers screaming in pain or smell the glue…

levyte357- wrote: Brand loyalty is great, but doesn't hide the facts.

This is more about preventing absolute FUD being spread rather than loyalty. I don't tend to use Void amps on our touring rigs any more, having moved to Powersoft K series, but that doesn't change my experiences. Your 'facts' are exactly the same thing.

Edited by toastyghost - 06 August 2012 at 5:43pm

toastyghost wrote: levyte357- wrote: inter-sound wrote: 1000-1200 With at least 10x being advertised in the last 2x weeks, would actually think "real value", is more  like £900-£1100 I'd think that you can shove your self-serving 'real value' up your rear end, personally

   

Looooool ha ha ha ive run 8 bin off 1 for 8 hours a few times without problems !

hi grade wrote: Looooool ha ha ha ive run 8 bin off 1 for 8 hours a few times without problems !

Cool. how much are you selling yours for?

Ras Loud wrote: levyte357- wrote: inter-sound wrote: 1000-1200 With at least 10x being advertised in the last 2x weeks, would actually think "real value", is more  like £900-£1100 Haven't you sold yours for 1300?

That was few months ago, when they were in demand, as opposed to now, where is about 10x for sale on FB, SP,  FSP.

I think the inf8 for its price is a brilliant amp, seriously they are the nuts. A bad workman blames his tools. We run ffa 8k on the same bass our of friends with inf8s thers not much in it but the inf8 has more juice