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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2012 at 4:51pm
very true lev, in an ideal world we would all have 2 rigs one for venues with 32's and one for 13amps lol.... this is one and the main thing when selecting very high power drivers will they suit your bread and butter gigs....
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yes this is true you could just limit the current draw on amps..(Powersoft pkn etc)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote luton_soundman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2012 at 5:30pm
celestions havnt proved them selves yet though. all that extra power but in a hall havnt outdone 50 scoops for throw, spl or quality yet. So so far cnt warrant needin more amps for them.  
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Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

I was only asking if Lev had access to a K20 and if he had tried it, as he seems to respect the K10 but states these drivers are power hungry. If anything can give a driver the juice it needs, it's a K20, and I know somebody who was lucky enough to find one for £2k second hand…


Yes, respect is due to K10, proved itself 2 ohm stereo, bass heavy material, tortuous environment, across '50s.

I do have access to K20s.

Have already tested CF18s with bridged transformer amp, and know exactly what driver needs/can take.

My interest is in drivers that can easily be driven 4x a side on K10s/PL9s/FFAs/E90s, or 2x a side on transformer amps.
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there is more to sub base than just scoops, there are so many good sub designs the suit every need and event, yes they sound good in scoops but allso sounds good in other designs. in the past month have done dance events, live bands, dance hall and roots, every event used differant kit suited to the type of events.... this is what one needs to look at when choosing drivers, will the driver suit the events u do...... luton i no u don't like the cf18 or ligwa cabs, but u do like butt jointed non braced cabs.... your words not mine.... 
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I Like ligwa cabs, just got ligwa sales of both scoops and kick bins and soon to be midtops so don't put words into my mouth. its not that I don't like the driver, just sayin for many of us it hasn't proved itself yet, just like tmax took time for users to get cabs right for them and make them shine. why do you have to try get personal for? your a clown. many ppl have gne gp with mdf non mouth brace scoop and sounded gd. let alone smaller venues.
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yes there is more to the world than scoops but tis thread is posted in the scoop forum for discussion on scoops! 
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Originally posted by bee bee wrote:

there is more to sub base than just scoops


Yes Ben, but this is the Scoop forum. We discuss scoops here.

In other forums, they'll discuss CF18 use in other cabs.



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Originally posted by JahMic JahMic wrote:

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Originally posted by JahMic JahMic wrote:

any new thoughts on the CF18VJD


Needs the right box, and tufty amp to shine.

Give thanks Lev
I have modded eminence scoops. And i got a crown itect 8000 . Would this combo work well. 


Unfortunately, ITECH 8K will run out of steam way before properly driving the Celestion.

I know, because I have one of the Celestions, and have also seen the ITECH driving '50s.



So i'm better off holding out and getting the 50s for the itect ?
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itech on proper 50 scoops sounded beautiful, not the most powerful amp but musically was a pleasure to listen to 
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The Itech 8000 is what I would call a very big amp. If you hang two 8 ohm drivers off each channel it should give them 2000 watts each. The peak output voltage is apparently 255 volts. What did you see it do when it was asked to power these Celestions?
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Originally posted by JahMic JahMic wrote:

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[QUOTE=JahMic]any new thoughts on the CF18VJD


Needs the right box, and tufty amp to shine.

Give thanks Lev
I have modded eminence scoops. And i got a crown itect 8000 . Would this combo work well. 


Unfortunately, ITECH 8K will run out of steam way before properly driving the Celestion.

I know, because I have one of the Celestions, and have also seen the ITECH driving '50s.



Also how much power does it take per driver to get the Celestions going. Reason for all the questions is i can get the cf18vjd $300 bucks cheaper than the 1850s. 


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