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TONY.A.S.S.
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Posted: 23 August 2013 at 12:22am |
Just researching some old horn speakers and came across this little beauty, obviously getting an admiring glance.
Obviously an RCA Bass cab with a bit of padding.
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jbl_man
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Please note the correct attire of the sound engineer,black trousers,polished shoes and white coat,we dont want any jeans and t-shirt here you know.......
Presumably that extra 15" driver mounted on the baffle is the mid-range driver? |
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jazomir
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They are RCA Shearer cabs with Altec 1505B multicelss methinks. Mouth area 28 sq ft. Here is a link to some beng used for hifi:
And finally, here is a Lansing monitor system which bears some relationship to the original pic: |
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TONY.A.S.S.
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I first heard those RCA's many years ago. They belonged to a PA company I was working with on a project. I thought they were amazing cabs. They would definitely stand up today with the latest speakers in them.
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jazomir
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IIRC they were used by the Rolling Stones in the early seventies. I first heard them at the 1972 Oval concert with Hawkwind/Frank Zappa. All I could recognise was the 3 large bins a sideand a huge number of JBL horns for MF/HF - very loud but slightly harsh. Imagine trying to fill a stadium with 6 bins total today!
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For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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TONY.A.S.S.
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It was Brian Hatt of Complex Sounds that used to have the RCA's, Colin Norfield was FOH and JJ was Monitors.
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jazomir
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There is a pic on PSW/LAB in the History of Concert Sound section showing the Stones PA system, designed by Bill Hanley. I believe it is the same one used at the Oval, but the Madison Square Garden system was flown with bins left and right and the mid/highs all flown centre:
Notice there are no upper bass/low mid cabs - the Bass cabs are crossed over to compression drivers.
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For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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Interesting read on the monitor system, will safely handle a peak power of 30watts which is adequate for 1200 seats, my how things have changed eh?
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It reminds me of my days in IT - when I first started in the seventies, programmers had to utilise every bit/byte of storage that was available, so you find that the Apollo missions had guidance computers with the processing power of a modern digital watch. Nowadays, functionality has increased n-fold and we are in a situation where no programmer really bothers about memory or processor limitations. Same with sound systems - when the talkies came, the low powered valve (tube) amps were the only thing available at the time so everything downstream had to be a efficient as possible to do its job. (Incidentally, Al Jolson star of the Jazz Singer, the first commercial talkie, used to carry a cinema-style PA system with him on the road after he became successful - probably the first artist to do so - whereas previously he had been able to use his skills as both a singer and entertainer to project to an audience without any assistance from such technology.)
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For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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TONY.A.S.S.
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AJ PA. got a certain ring to it.
What a lot of new comers may find it hard to believe is that with all the power we have today, it's not much louder than it used to be especially in a Concert Hall situation. Hammersmith Odeon used to be done with less than 10k. Today, artistes would want that on stage never mind out front.
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Very true.
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jazomir
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The old Rainbow system was also based on the RCA-type bins - almost the same as the Stones system I mentioned earlier. 3 bins per side, probably driven by DC300s giving total bass power of 900 watts/side - individual floor monitors use more than that nowadays.
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