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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ShokZi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2014 at 7:19pm
im also interested as i had my eye on those horns but couldnt find enough data on directivity to take such a leap of faith
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Any updates, looks like a really interesting project....

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Agreed, i looked up Stereolab and all i found was a band. I would love more info, they look beautiful, good horns tend to lok right and hat is a corker. I am a fan of tractrix my lower mid horns are based on the tractrix curve.

Do they have a website?
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Website is here.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote odc04r Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 October 2015 at 9:09am
Lovely horns, fairly pricey but I bet the quality is good. Bet they could be great for HiFi customs if you had a nice 1"/1.4" driver sitting around
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DJ-Dulux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2016 at 4:26pm
Did you finish your work on these, I am wanting to build a bigger 12V rig over the next year and these may do the trick?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SouthwestCNC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 March 2017 at 11:57pm
Wow Corian, nice inert material and impressive thermoforming. 10mm that is interesting it's only available in 9 or 12 which likely means that 2mm is stretched out in the thermoforming process. No easy task. Problem with it is its brittle, a good impact and it shatters, it also scratches very easily. Not sure how well it would fair in a touring application. Need to be boxed for certain.
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Unfortunately, whilst on axis sound was superb, these, and all other tractrix flares i have played with ( 18 sound  and a couple of unbranded ones i picked up somewhere) suffered from too much HF beaming, giving an inconsistent sound and making splaying multiple boxes impossible.

With flares, you cant beat the physics unfortunately - and i had to compromise and use large CD flares that whilst ultimately sounded poorer on axis were array-able and  far more consistent across their coverage area giving a solution which was workable.

For me, tractrix flares have one use - hifi where you have one focused listening position and need very high sensitivity through the use of very low powered valve amps, and thats about it.
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Chris did you try the 4594Nd on the 18sound XT? With FIR filtering applied to correct some of the dispersion anomalies it's damn good - but as you say it's not ideal for more than two per side

Nor is it cheap!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SouthwestCNC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2017 at 2:32pm
18sound claims about the xt being a cd horn are bogus, Here is a sim we done of it.

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How did the fully round tractrix compare? id imagine it probably beamed more.
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Well there must be an issue with that sim because they provide their own isobars, polars, DI and so on here:
http://www.eighteensound.com/Portals/0/PDFs/XT1464.PDF
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Really difficult to compare as the scales (dB and frequency) are so different?
 
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