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cravings 
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 Posted: 23 October 2013 at 9:48pm |
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you think the wooden horn of an xtro could be comparable to the martin mid horn? i haven't heard either... but am surprised to hear someone say that.
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MarjanM
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 8:58pm |
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It all depend what your need is. Xtros are designed to complement the punishers. So they dont go low. Hence their not so warm tone.
I have nothing against the H3. But if you need more kick, then xtro is a better box. The mid and high of both boxes are very similar, so b&c loaded xtro should sound very comparable in 300Hz and up part of the sound with the H3.
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toastyghost
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 8:44pm |
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I have, several times, and owned Xtros for a while. Have you? It sounds, well, boxy for want of a better word. Certainly nowhere near as smooth or warm as the H3 and they take a lot more juice to boot. H3 with matching reflex subs is one of my favourite compact rigs and I've heard just two stacks a side easily cover a huge hall (at least 25m squared) for very demanding, aggressive music with ease. I've also listened to Xtros built, tuned and loaded by people who I trust and they always lacked something - maybe not kick or punch, but I just didn't enjoy the sound at all. I believe they were also used at the amp shootout some years ago and Rog and a few other members agreed with me. Not to mention that second hand H3 will be cheaper than a new Xtro, and carry a reputable brand on the front of the grille which means cross hiring and selling could well be a lot easier. Plus at a push, the H3 works as a proper full range box (FOH or drum fill?) with a surprising amount of depth, which can't be said of the Xtro. Edited by toastyghost - 23 October 2013 at 8:45pm |
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discosucks
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 2:47pm |
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thats my problem too! But it is a very big part of it
 I have a guy that does cnc work for me , and will more than likely be getting a cnc machine of my own soon ( my dad is a luthier and wants to start making more solid bodies ) . I know the UK has many box designers but i wonder is there anyone around Ireland working on it at the moment?
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Shortrope
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 2:16pm |
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I'm trying to find a design I can adapt... I'd really like to make up a one piece twin horn baffle with phase plugs in GRP. I've got this fancy image in my head of lovely dark wood Veneer cabs with neat coloured horn/baffle and phase plug. I'm fairly sure I've got the ability to build it but I don't know enough about how to design the horns yet. It's a bit frustrating!!
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discosucks
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 1:53pm |
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@ cravings . Yea i was looking at the w3s , same kind of phase ball on the 6" that the h3' has on the 10" .
 . I was looking to build something like them too shortrope , but my lack of knowledge using modelling software has held me back when haha , but there is some designs available for 3 way boxes like them ( folded kick section , horn mid/hi ) . |
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 7:51am |
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Yeah man...I remember. I'm all the way down in West Cork! If I'm up your way I'll give you a shout, I never been to Sligo. I'd really like to hear those H3s, that's the kind of Mid top Cab I'd like to build eventually. |
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cravings
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 1:59am |
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expensive experiment.
i have a pair of the 8" drivers and some time will get round to building a pair of the 8" horns to have a play with. the mid high section on my martin W3s seems pretty similar to the H3 high. haven't brought them out yet though.. |
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discosucks
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 12:59am |
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But i guess a ab test is the only real way to test this , and i really still like the look of them and will hopefully build some soon :)
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discosucks
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 12:52am |
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My h3's are one of the best sounding mid-tops iv heard .
But im sure the xtro's do kick harder , would be surprised if the high section on the xtro's sounded anywhere as nice tho .
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MarjanM
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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 12:34am |
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Which does not prove anything really. A/B them and then say what you will hear.
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jamieb
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Posted: 22 October 2013 at 11:28pm |
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I agree, while the Xtro offers lots of tweeking options its still really a diy cab, The H3 has had a huge design budget by martin and is one of the sweetest sounding cabinets on the market.
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