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luton_soundman 
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 Posted: 18 November 2016 at 8:30pm |
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Same as another hire outfit. Get good results because they take 3 times the amount of stuff. Doesnt make the boxes good its just a numbers game. When they took 6sub cabs to gp it did nothing compared to us and certain other crews who have gone in with only 4. And done more damage more coverage more notes.
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ape3435
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Posted: 18 November 2016 at 8:44pm |
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With all the testing and comparing that you've done it seems you're trying your best to dis-credit them; they are very good for a free plan and that's mine and others opinion, you have your opinion; stop forcing it down other people's throat sir. I use 12 outdoors year round and love em. Edited by ape3435 - 18 November 2016 at 8:45pm |
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luton_soundman
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Posted: 18 November 2016 at 9:10pm |
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Lol you are funny. For a free plan yes they are ok'ish. Eminence alot better and thats free. I am not discrediting them i am comparing them to top scoops that half of you guys have probably never used before. You use 12 well done congrats. My observations and discoveries lead me to use 8 other scoops to achieve a better sound and more pressure and coverage in the lower frequency range than your 12. Thats how i look at sound system in effeciency. I would rather a more effecient system that allows me to take less than the average joe to achieve just as good or a better sound and more spl. Needing less equals less money on equipment, less money on more vans, less manpower, less backaches, and more time to myself before and after gigs :) some people would rather buy more boxes speakers and amps. Each to their own.
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Posted: 18 November 2016 at 9:16pm |
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Posted: 18 November 2016 at 9:20pm |
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Let me know when you too have had the top 10-15 scoops in the same hall and tested compared and a/b them all. Look forward to your post on it.
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Posted: 18 November 2016 at 9:28pm |
Not really interested in that, prefer listening to the full audio spectrum and seeing people enjoying the music than having to listen to speakers rumbling for hours to prove which is best. |
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MarjanM
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Posted: 18 November 2016 at 10:40pm |
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Ar which exact frequency are scoops better then hogs?
Are you sure that you are comparing apples and apples? |
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Posted: 18 November 2016 at 11:00pm |
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My coat is on now and im zippin up even tho the heat is rising.
Everyone entitled to opinion, but this being a diy fourm, what's the point of dissing certain diy designs and comparing them to cabs that are not in public domain? Not really sticking up for hogs but... I measure mine from the underneath to the tip but some say im cheating cos they measure there's from the top to tip. I swear mine is longer. |
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Posted: 18 November 2016 at 11:38pm |
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Sorry, lowering the tone to base level again
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Posted: 18 November 2016 at 11:45pm |
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I compared it to the eminence design which is FREE DIY PUBLIC DESIGN. GET IT, FREEEEEEE DESIGN. EMINENCE SCOOP WIPED THE FLOOR WITH IT IN ALL AREAS. its all off topic to a degree as the o.p is about a 21". But the point of the comparisons is to know what to buy or build. And i think the point of the comments regarding hog being a not very good scoop compared to many others is relevant to a degree as the 21"may be just as bad and so worth pointing out. Not sure why hog owners are crying as they didnt design them. Im not faulting the design as such jus giving an insight in to where id rank it. But what do i know about scoops anyway....carry on. Im out.
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Posted: 19 November 2016 at 2:39am |
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Off course, whenever someone ask for specific details, scoop peoples gets out of the discussions.
This reminds me of my arguments with Lev 3-4 years ago when comparing 9601 and 1850. Wiped the floor is a very wage explanation. I am far away and have never heard any of those designs. So bare with me and please explain how they differ. But do that scientifically because that is the only way i could really understand it.
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Posted: 19 November 2016 at 10:23am |
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And if you want to make me happy, show a measurement (of said scoops vs. hog's).
Wkr Johan Edited by mobiele eenheid - 19 November 2016 at 10:24am |
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