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kevin tyler
Old Croc Joined: 15 April 2007 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 3402 |
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I have been doing a lot of googling on these gimmicky systems lately, however I have only found one producer ( carvin) who actaully compare their own column line array thing with one of their own conventional cabs taking a long a measurement device , and apparently the column behaves better than its larger sibling.
Whether you hate bose or not, the 802 where popular and I doubt in the application for which they where created, not many people would be moaning about not high/low enough. Shame with reference to the f1 it's not scalable, that's a four grand all or nothing pa isn't it. Kev |
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LunchieTey
Young Croc Joined: 06 February 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 934 |
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More garbage with no research... I am NOT a BOSE fanboy at all but some of the stuff you have said simply shows your ignorance and that you just want to bash the product. Firstly a HUGE number of manufacturers boast calculated maximum spls with no real reference to power or frequency. Secondly, how do you know at all that the sub can't make a peak somehow at 130db. If that is at its claimed 1000w output it would need to do 100db at 1w. In a two driver cabinet in half space (sitting on the floor) this is not impossible at all. Most manufacturers also use whatever is the most efficient frequency and 100db at say 100hz is within its bandwidth. I will also point out that peak may be 2000w or some number like that which takes 3db off. 97dbwm sensitivity is very normal. Thirdly, comparing the line of 2" drivers to the line of bigger AND waveguide loaded drivers with more power in the F1 is apples and oranges. The array in the F1 is only ised above 600hz meaning very low excursion requirements. The L1 use the tiny drivers down to 180hz and as such require longer voicecoils etc and lower resonant frequency. If you knew much about how a loudspeaker driver is designed, you would know this drops overall speaker efficiency. It is therefore absolutely easy to expect different output capability. Just because this system can't handle a rock concert doesn't mean anything at all. Please point out a 4 box system of the same size and weight that will do just that? The system like all BOSE products is surely overpriced, but it's different, will retain its value, is small and light, and people who don't know much will appreciate the brand. For smaller gigs for a small band/dj it is a decent premium system. There is also the arguable point that compression drivers don't always sound great and it is possible the lack of a crossover in most of the vocal region may be quite beneficial. I would also guess the off axis response will be pretty even compared to your average 12 and horn on a pole (which is the most relevant comparison) as quite a lot of those have crossover point close to the woofers beaming issues and not to mention upper mid breakup of a 12" cone. I think it's worth a listen in the hands of a competent operator before you highlight your lack of understanding in loudspeaker design and 'roll around on the floor laughing ' |
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GEB
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Heard it yesterday at BPM, it didn't sound very nice to my ears, certainly when you compare what half or even a 3rd of the money buys you. But thats just my ears comparing it side by side to many other systems of similar scale.
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