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teeth 
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 Topic: PKN XE6000 AMP?Posted: 14 January 2024 at 10:37am |
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hi, the plastic screen front of my XE6000 has fallen off for some reason, looks like the adhesive failed.
anyone know how can I remove the front to replace it? i can’t get the frontage past the handles protruding from the front. i could try an fiddly fix through it but don't trust myself not to get glue everywhere...
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toastyghost
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Posted: 19 May 2018 at 4:26pm |
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Yes and you’d almost expect someone who’s entire job is to build things based on said components to plan for that, no? I look forward to hearing a H8 amp in 2040 |
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We have few XE10000U in our inventory too, while I just tested the XE10000 three weeks ago with great results.
Do not mix them, They are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT amplifies inside while the outside is very similar! XE10000U has Universal power supply and similar 'half-bridge switching amp' like Powersoft K10. I think most of you have already experienced that these XE PKNs offer better sound quality than Powersoft K series, I mean fine details in music, vocals, highs & mids not bellow 20Hz infrasub tones.. The XE10000 has normal EU power supply (160V-250Vac) with PFC of course like other XE or XD amps from PKN. I better like the sound quality of the XE , likely due higher resolution and other advantages of the bridged output than the simpler half-bridge! Working bellow 180Vac mains is not important for us in Europe Central. So the normal EU version is OK here. I would not really need more power for our work what the XE6000 delivers but the extra headroom offered by the 10000 model is eye catching, especially we got friendly pricing not lots more expensive than 6000 :-) Edited by U.Viktor - 19 May 2018 at 1:05pm |
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Posted: 19 May 2018 at 11:23am |
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Is a 2u amp that much of a deal breaker for people? LabGruppen seem to be doing okay with 2U. Somehow I think they might get a better return on investment in R&D if they made a 2U amp and actually sold it. Also any word on the H8?
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Andy Kos
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Posted: 19 May 2018 at 10:14am |
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They could, and they did, but it relied on certain components, that unfortunately proved difficult to source. They have made some crazy stuff in the past, but in order for it to reach market, it has to be possible to manufacture it in a financially viable way, and relies on various suppliers in the supply chain being able to supply specific components. Making things to operate at lower power, in a larger 2u/3u amp gives you more flexibility. When you are trying to fit maximum power into a very small 1U case, you don't have the same flexibility in component choices, some physically wont fit, others wont handle the power. |
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toastyghost
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So a company that is supposedly a world leader in power supply manufacturing couldn't make an SMPS amp that runs on more than one voltage range? Sounds great 
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Posted: 18 May 2018 at 12:17pm |
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"Offering" ;)
Dangling might be a more appropriate word. This is pure speculation, but I reckon what's happened here is they designed the amp, built prototypes, announced the launch, tried to build as much hype as possible, then at some stage it became clear (through customer interest, and via extrapolation from the market performance of their lower powered amps in the same range, and evaluation of their like for like competitors) that it was probably not - in it's current form at least - going to be a viable business concern. That doesn't mean it's a bad product they just might not have considered themselves properly positioned to deliver it. (although there could also have been other undisclosed issues holding up launch - QA/reliability ie). 'Component supply issues' is a good cover-all explanation that bends the truth but doesn't break it entirely. They couldn't source components in small enough quantities/cheap enough to bring the product to market, or they couldn't source components that were reliable enough when assembled into the finished product as currently specified, or some combination of the two. Either way, 'component supply issue!' So they kick the can down the road for 3 years, obviously they're not going to say "we're not selling them because we don't think they'll be profitable", but that sort of thing does happen. Similar to the reasons why many component manufacturers don't maintain a direct to consumer outlet for some or all of their products. Now they're 'relaunching' it, probably after an extensive reworking of the production pipeline and other overheads that puts it sufficiently in the green again that they're happy to take the risk.
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Andy Kos
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Posted: 18 May 2018 at 11:42am |
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The XE10000 (as opposed to XE10000-U) was only announced as available in April at Frankfurt. Previously they were only offering XE10000-U |
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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 6:47pm |
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My Bad. I apologise.
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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 5:33pm |
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A small number of XE10000-U were made, but not enough to satisfy demand. If they had been able to resolve the component supply problem, more would have been made.
I would rather they wait, and make sure they release a stable, working product, than try to rush it through using inferior components just to get a product to market. But admittedly, three years is a bit longer than most people would consider reasonable. It's not unusual for products to be announced 3-6 months before they're available, and it's common with speakers. Most of the 'new' products announced at Frankfurt wont be in circulation until June or July. |
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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 4:36pm |
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So just the three years from announcement of availability to actual availability? Those sure are turnaround times I can base my business on!
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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 3:41pm |
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Its the XE10000-U that apparently nobody ever saw, we certainly couldn't get our hands on one, something to do with supply issues for one critical component. This is still currently unavailable.
We have the XE10000 on order (not universal international PSU version) and we've been promised it will only be a few weeks. There was an XE10000 at Frankfurt last month, and we're confident we will see it soon. |
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