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dylan-penguinmedia
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There is always the option to hire one, if you don't have access to demo stock.
20-40 quid would have you pretty much any amp you want to try out. |
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toastyghost
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That too. If you're planning to spend a grand or more on an amp then really you should be doing some better research. Also if you read the proper manual or engineer specs there's much more info available to allow you to make your own calculations - that's why they 'get away with it' on advertising.
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Earplug
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All true - but I think that the issue here is that 15 or 20 years ago you could just look at a spec sheet and (more or less) know what you were getting. These days - haha. Caveat Emptor, indeed. |
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Elliot Thompson
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I just compare the power consumption required to attain the advertised wattage versus the actual consumption of the amplifier will consume before its cuts back from the line voltage. I always thought the whole idea of buying DSP embedded amplifiers were to take advantage of the on board DSP which, offered features that were not available from stand alone units. I could not phantom investing in an Powersoft X4 and my main focus is how well it performs at 2 ohms per channel. Best Regards, Edited by Elliot Thompson - 06 July 2016 at 4:31pm |
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toastyghost
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+/-3dB
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The way I see it is that back in the days the amplification used to be fairly linear, time-invariant. Back then one could specify power figures in a table.
But since technology change where now have greater variation over time, we can no longer specify in tabular format. Part of the confusion can be blamed on using wrong type of chart. |
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Earplug
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"Could you, really? Because testing and real world usage actually says quite the opposite."
Which amps let you down? Most of the old school amps I´ve owned have matched the specs very well. There was no need to inflate the specs until the whole 'digital' amplifier thing took off and the cheap copies started appearing. Even taking a well know and trusted manufacturer like Crown, for example and comparing the figures for the older amps and the one´s they have now, I know which I´d trust. |
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Andy Kos
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So If a car manufacturer figures out a way to 'fiddle' the testing for emissions, and make their multi-thousand pound car's performance appear to be different on paper than it is in real life, this is a big problem, and car owners can seek compensation from the manufacturer as the product has potentially been mis-sold.
But if an amp manufacturer plays the mathematics to make their product appear to be different on paper than it is in real life, then it's down to the buyer (who may or may not have the relevant expertise) to work out if the amplifier is fit for purpose and whether it performs as advertised. I would prefer to see more transparency in power specifications, I know from experience that customers are confused and are finding it difficult to make meaningful comparisons.
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concept-10
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While we are using cars to compare, i could go and buy a cheap new car for 5/6/7 grand, it will come with a very comprehensive 7 year warranty, as long as it's serviced i can rag the crap out of it and that warranty will be stood by, i could spend the same cash on some powersoft amps, put them in the best suspended rack and treat them very well but only get a 1 year warranty, if i was going to spend tens of thousands replacing my amps i would expect a damn site more without being asked to pay even more for extensions.
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csg
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You get 48 months warranty as standard...thats 4 years.
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“The fact is this is about identifying what we do best and finding more ways of doing less of it better”
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concept-10
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Says one year on their website.
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King Simeon
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We are going a little away from the original subject, but I would like to say that with all thats going on, there is a clear issue of general honesty, understanding and service that 'changed' over the past decade in business.
It may well be that we are finding out more along the way, (rose tinted glasses), but certainly customers are secondary to businesses, who's main aim is to hold your money and will come up with different ways for you to pay into their accounts. Some of this is based around a system that does not so much offer an independent product, as older products were. They were better designed for use and for longevity, parts/design, that was part of the selling point and the core identity of the brand. Now we have brands who generally offer very little with their products, but will market to kill off others, regardless of product. (I am not pointing to Powersoft in this instance). This is the most problematic issue for me, and, that very little is being done about it. The best advice given is to learn things for yourself, (regarding amps) and to test whenever possible and to use your ears.. before all this, have some idea of what you actually want, (do not simply listen to marketing & fashion of others). Better not to trust the big writing on adverts and next to products, use them as a ball park ideal. Just my 2pennies worth.
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