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Futendra
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Posted: 20 February 2017 at 3:10pm |
Hi!
So me and a couple of friends are starting a soundsystem (for techno, hardcore, breakcore, acid, jungle, ragga, ...) EDIT: In order to make the new plan clear; 1) We will have 6 labhorns. 2) We bought two Turbosound TMS-3's, that will be powered by: HF: Europower EP1500 HMF: tamp TSA 4-1300 LMF: tamp TSA 4-1300 3) As for processor we bought a Behringer DCX2496 Ultradrive Pro: - 1 output for the bass - 1 output for the LMF - 2 ouputs (stereo) for the HMF - 2 outputs (stereo) for the HF EDIT2: Wow, reading this all back now was quite the journey. Just to clarify what route we took since this topic; We now (still) have the two Turbosound TMS-3s which is powered by a Matrix XT1000, t.amp 4-1300 (which will soon also be upgraded to a Matrix XT3000MF or XT5000MF) and Matrix XT7000MF. We also have the six labhorns, which are currently powered by a Matrix XT10000MF. Everything is processed with a Nova DC8000, and mixed through a Soundcraft Ui16. All speakers are phase alligned using SMAART. Quite proud of all the progress we made! We're currently checking our options to upgrade our tops to a more back-friendly and overall more flexible solution. Edited by Futendra - 05 March 2019 at 7:01pm |
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Mark James
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well for one i can say they are a good cabinet , amp choice seems a bit iffy tho i would say lol id get some matrix xt800 on tops [yeah im just saying that cos thats waht im using] remember they are 16ohm cabs tho] nice cabs tho
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me so horny me love you long throw
horn loaded for her pleasure |
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Futendra
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Yeah, we don't have a lot of budget at all. We have around 7000 euros total. How do you connect your amps to the EP6 connection? Edited by Futendra - 20 February 2017 at 4:21pm |
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cravings
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where are you and what's the currency you have 7000 of?
flashlight tops are very narrow dispersion, not made to be used as singles, so you'd want to use the 2 each side every time the system is out. w-bins are pretty old now. not many people making them these days. read up on patch panels to find out how multiple amps get to speakers. |
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Futendra
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Euros. I didn't know the symbols were bugged. The plan is to use the 2 each side, or build it up as a wall. What is a best bang for the buck alternative to the W-bin? I particularly like them because they only use one driver for 2 horns and they are the perfect size to put the Flashlights on, but there might be something better out there I don't know about. |
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Mark James
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i have to be honest in my opinion best option for bass [and would work well in your situation as long as 4 in a stack well 2 should be ok just restrict power] is the 186 horn with the challenger 18 driver can get from blue arran if you buy 6+ im sure they will do a deal, i got 8 atm and soon to be 12+ and they do the trick if your carefull on the power in the 186 horn they go down to 40 ish hz
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Futendra
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With the 186 horn I would need at least 6 on each side, just to be able to stack the Turbosounds on top. That will be really pricey and a lot of work, while W-bins do the trick. I want people standing in front to stand in the bass, with the mids and highs flying over them. I don't want to blow people's ears of with highs and mids... |
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midas
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Will they go up to meet the flash though? Or will you need a kick bin to start with?
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In bass no one can hear you scream!
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Mark James
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wodering that myself tbh lol the 186 might just about stretch that high will be dicey though i wouldnt want to do it lol just realised 180 crossover poit prefered lol
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Futendra
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I have no idea about the W-bin design, but the driver has a frequency response of 30 - 1000Hz, and it can drop down to 40Hz with 4 W-bins. The Flashlights have a frequency response of 150Hz - 20kHz. So based on that, they must definitely meet. The Flashlights go quite low. Edited by Futendra - 20 February 2017 at 5:13pm |
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750 for some likely ragged/abused ones seems a bit much imo
(spare parts are expensive) i would get some bigger amps to power them, rather look for SH offers on old crest/camco etc. instead of the low budget behringer ones. |
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I am not sure a 186 horn will hit 170Hz very nicely...
4x21s and TSW 718 on top would work. As for phyical wiring, you need a patch panel with NL4 to EP out and then some 6 core 2.5mm to the Flash, given the cost of EP series connectors (and wank shaped holes required for the females) I would SERIOUSLY consider a jump to NL8 before you start, NL8 chassis cons are not expensive and if you don't already have ep6 cabling just so 8 core and send your bass and LM-HM-HF all down one cable! Most amps have ch A+B on speakon A so a simple 3xNL4 to 2x EP6 will get stereo out the amps, but 4x NL4 to 2xNL8 would be better... I can draw a quick pic if you are confused.. :-) |
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