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    Posted: 20 April 2017 at 11:13am
I generally cover DJ gigs so I take the output of the DJ mixer and plug it into the LMS and go from there.
Recently I've been starting to plug in the odd singer/acoustic act here and there etc so I'm on the lookout for a mixing desk. For now I would like to start small and simple as I'm no pro and want to build my experience before I move on to bigger desks with more bells and whistles.
 
I quite like the look of the Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK
But my question is there anything else I should be looking at i.e Allen and Heath ZED60-10FX, Midas etc?
 
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Originally posted by Biggus Biggus wrote:

I generally cover DJ gigs so I take the output of the DJ mixer and plug it into the LMS and go from there.
Recently I've been starting to plug in the odd singer/acoustic act here and there etc so I'm on the lookout for a mixing desk. For now I would like to start small and simple as I'm no pro and want to build my experience before I move on to bigger desks with more bells and whistles.
 
I quite like the look of the Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK
But my question is there anything else I should be looking at i.e Allen and Heath ZED60-10FX, Midas etc?
 

With that desk a lot of what you're paying for is the ability to send all channels to a DAW separately but that doesn't seem to be something that you'll be using?  
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its only a extra £20 over the standard signature 12 desk - thought for the price might be a useful feature to have for recording.. not essential but at that price point I can't say no.
 
 
 
 
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Another question... whats the difference between the soundcraft EPM and Signature desks. why would I go for one over the other?
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Originally posted by Biggus Biggus wrote:

its only a extra £20 over the standard signature 12 desk - thought for the price might be a useful feature to have for recording.. not essential but at that price point I can't say no.
 
 
 
 

Well that's how they've priced them yes but realistically £309 for that mixer is above the rest of the market - example https://www.studiospares.com/Studio-Gear/Mixers-Analogue/Soundcraft-EPM12-Mixer_267680.htm

The non-MTK users are going to be subsidising the MTK ones.  


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Hi I looked at this but want to start simple before I move more hi tech
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Originally posted by Risc_Terilia Risc_Terilia wrote:

Originally posted by Biggus Biggus wrote:

its only a extra £20 over the standard signature 12 desk - thought for the price might be a useful feature to have for recording.. not essential but at that price point I can't say no.
 
 
 
 

Well that's how they've priced them yes but realistically £309 for that mixer is above the rest of the market - example https://www.studiospares.com/Studio-Gear/Mixers-Analogue/Soundcraft-EPM12-Mixer_267680.htm

The non-MTK users are going to be subsidising the MTK ones.  
 
Whats the difference between EPM vs Singature series apart from MTK DAC
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Originally posted by Biggus Biggus wrote:

Originally posted by Risc_Terilia Risc_Terilia wrote:

Originally posted by Biggus Biggus wrote:

its only a extra £20 over the standard signature 12 desk - thought for the price might be a useful feature to have for recording.. not essential but at that price point I can't say no.
 
 
 
 

Well that's how they've priced them yes but realistically £309 for that mixer is above the rest of the market - example https://www.studiospares.com/Studio-Gear/Mixers-Analogue/Soundcraft-EPM12-Mixer_267680.htm

The non-MTK users are going to be subsidising the MTK ones.  
 
Whats the difference between EPM vs Singature series apart from MTK DAC

Looks like different pres, have a google...
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Massively different preamp
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Is the ghost preamp any better? Should I be looking at any other desks?
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The original Ghost series still finds a lot of use in studios because it has a certain sound when overdriven. Similar to Midas' pres but different sound.

It will better than what's in an EPM/EFX yes. But we had this question the other day frankly you're going to want outboard before long and you've already spend X Air or similar type of unit money. Just get a digital unit now it's more future proof a better use of your money and if you're new to mixing stuff the presets in there will probably be useful to get you started.

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