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Natedub
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Great thread on the sure audio dsp. I too have been playing with these for a little mini project. The dsp works great with good audio quality. I have been struggling with the icp1 programmer though. SometimesI can connect and program no problem, but most of the time it is extremely flaky to say the least. Sigma studio recognises the icp1 (usb connection turns green) when I click link compile connect all is good but as soon as I click link compile download it says communication failed. There is no rhyme nor reason to it. Once in a while it just works. I have tried everything. I have messaged sure and asked for a replacement icp1, hell I have even asked to buy another icp1 but they just keep asking me simple questions such as 'is switch 1 in position 1' its driving me crazy! Anyone got any tips? Its otherwise a good unit but these problems are putting me off. Anyone else have these problems? Thanks guys
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carlosdelondres
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Had a reply back from Sure, the expansion board switch and LED do not work with the JAB3 (helpful...)
Sure have confirmed the JAB3 does not charge the 18650 board. You have to parallel the board with the MPPT on a JAB2 for this to work. Mine is connected 19V laptop psu to both JAB2 and 3 power inputs, then the JAB2 MPPT 4 pin connects to the first 18650 board, then on to the 2nd, then the JAB3. This works, though for some reason it has not fully charged the cells. Waiting to hear back on this. I've got the JAB3 programming guide, and the JAB2/3 installation guide, which contain some useful information (or some information it would have been useful to have...) |
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studio45
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Excellent, that is encouraging. I'll buy a board and get experimenting then :)
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carlosdelondres
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Had a bit of a play with the limiters. They are a pain to set up, but seem to work fine. Peak + RMS combo works nicely as far as I can tell without much in the way of specs or instrumentation. Used on a pair of dual 5" PPSL/bandpass subs, tames excursion peaks without losing too much of the bass. Time will tell if the RMS portion of the algorithm is working setup correctly, but I'm sure if it is set right, it will work and sound pretty good.
if anyone has any advice on setup of this limiter would be great to hear it :) https://wiki.analog.com/resources/tools-software/sigmastudio/toolbox/dynamicsprocessors/peakrmscombonogain |
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carlosdelondres
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Haven't tried them yet, don't really know what power the amps are giving as Sure publish a slightly odd set of specs. I'd imagine they're ok though, Powersoft have some instructions on setting them up available here:
http://www.powersoft-audio.com/en/docman/654-d-cell504-and-digimod-how-to-set-rms-limiters-in-sigmastudio |
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studio45
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Are you using the limiters at all, if so what are they like? That'd be the main reason I would buy one of these. But only if they seem to work well.
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carlosdelondres
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The 18650s are charging up to 3.96 volts per cell, which is a bit low unfortunately. I'm just using an old laptop brick to charge/run from 240v.
I didn't bother with the program that was on the board when it came, just hooked up to sigma studio (with the sure ICP1 programmer) and put my own program on. That side of things works fine, although the connection to the JAB3 board is much flakier than the ADAU1701 board for some reason. To program there are a few wrinkles not that clearly covered in the docs. Connect the ICP1 via usb and verify the connection in the harware configuration tab in Sigma Studio is showing green, hit link compile connect on Sigma Studio, then connect to the programming port on the JAB3/ADAU1701. Then hit link compile download. The board should now be running your program. To write it to the EEPROM, move the micro switch on the ICP1 to position 1 and right click the AUAU1701 box in sigma studio HW configuration tab, choose write latest compilation to EEPROM. Move switch back to position 2 and disconnect/reboot the board to run in standalone mode. You can make changes to parameters in real time after hitting link compile download, but if you add new processing blocks you need to recompile and download the program. Worth reading through the Sigma Studio wiki to get more of an idea of what it can do - there are some quite useful excercises in the projects section on their website as well... |
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Edd Jordan
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are all the 18650s at the right indavidual voltage? also you need a 19v power adapter to charge and play at the same time correct? my jab 3 board 1x 60 watt sounds terrible muffled and 2 of the trim pots for high cut and low cut dont work. i havnt pluged into it yet with sigma studio. iv got 3 diffrent types of board i need to sit down with all of them together and try and work out whats going on. also bough a couple of the indavidual kernal boards with the analogue break out board. as soon as i get a chance to play i will let you know if i find anything out.
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carlosdelondres
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Just hooked up some 18650s to my JAB3/2 and unfortunately the JAB3 MPPT doesn't seem to be charging either, though it powers fine from the cells. On the JAB2 it is working fine. Odd...
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carlosdelondres
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What is it you can't get working (other than the switch/leds on the extension board)?
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Edd Jordan
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thanks for that yeh i think im going to skype them i need it for portable speaker i want to ge tinto production but i just cant get this board to work. sure in the past have just been simple plug and play but this jab series has me stumped. good luck if i get any info on how to get these boards to work easly i will post it up here.
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carlosdelondres
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The JAB 3 + JAB2 combination gives 4 channels of DSP, but only if the signal is input to the JAB3, afaik. With just the JAB3 you'll get 2 channels of DSP and amp, but nothing to stop you taking the signal from the JAB2/3 link out socket and feeding it to another amp to get the other channels...their documentation is almost wilfully obtuse I agree...
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