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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 October 2017 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by Mikkel Mikkel wrote:

Originally posted by corell corell wrote:

MKB will never play to 380 Hz, even MKH struggles to do so.


good to know. I was only going off the frequency response graphs on the webpage.


SPL wise, they play to 500-600 Hz more or less flat. But they sound shit above a certain frequency, i would say 350 Hz is accetable for the MKH with careful EQing, 300 Hz without.
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Originally posted by KMB KMB wrote:

well i have a 4 way pre amp with kick 92-360hz..


Not sure what shipping would be to Belgium. But the rb212 plays 90-370hz flat. 109db@1w1m

Edited by SouthwestCNC - 13 October 2017 at 2:32pm
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Originally posted by SouthwestCNC SouthwestCNC wrote:

Originally posted by KMB KMB wrote:

well i have a 4 way pre amp with kick 92-360hz..


Not sure what shipping would be to Belgium. But the rb212 plays 90-370hz flat. 109db@1w1m

Do you have a site or plans for the rb212 because i cant find anything about it on the net. thanks
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The RB212 is a cabinet i designed several years back, ive licensed it to Southwest CNC now.  No free plans im afraid sorry.




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Originally posted by SouthwestCNC SouthwestCNC wrote:

109db@1w1m
that will be 2PI, kicks are 4PI, so more like 104db; Unless the midbass stack is on the ground, which is feasable. 
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Originally posted by Keen Keen wrote:

Originally posted by SouthwestCNC SouthwestCNC wrote:

109db@1w1m
that will be 2PI, kicks are 4PI, so more like 104db; Unless the midbass stack is on the ground, which is feasable. 


According to the theory, at 360Hz the kicks could be half a meter off the ground and still be 2Pi... 

I don't reckon that on-top of a couple of subs would constitute "Free Air" LOL
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109db is a half space measurement but yeah the cabs unlikely to be used in free space so it always going to be somewhere between the two and subject to change depending on how you are stacking it and whether it is coupling with other cabs or not.



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For Reggae/Dub and that Pre-Amp, 2x15" Reflex, for going above 2x 18" Scoops, is the best sound you will get.

Just use very sensitive drivers, OR drivers that have really high power handling (NOT SUB 15s).

In Reggae world, 90-400hz, is almost more important, than the sub.

And yes, some vocals go down to 90hz.
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Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

This may sound a bit dumb but 360Hz is pretty high for a kick.

Let's take for example drum'n'bass where you'd mix subs below 100Hz, kick on top of that and the snare peaking at around 250Hz where it has the most "body". The information that cuts through the mix and makes it sound like a snare is located higher on the frequency spectrum (5-7kHz) which may sound high at first.

EDIT : Some EDM/dnb producers add a hi hat on top of the kick to add some spice to it.

EDIT 2 : The percussive, groovy stuff of a bassline is located in the same frequency range as most of the drum section but the interesting nuances are above 250Hz.

EDIT 3 : I wrote a half-a**ed book which has some stuff related to the subject






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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:


Just use very sensitive drivers, OR drivers that have really high power handling (NOT SUB 15s).


15NDL88, MB15N405, 15ND930 or something alike would be great.
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I thought the point of a mid kick with high range was to be part of a 4 or even 3 way system, less comb filtering, closer to point source. In an ideal world one way.. how nice that would sound. 
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