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    Posted: 21 August 2025 at 10:35am
Hi.

I am looking to reduce the dispersion angle of my speakers. Are there some dirty tricks I can look at to achieve this? Barn doors, some sort of phase-pluggery, etc?

The speakers in question are Martin F15. Currently 80 deg but looking to half that.

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Rotate the horn, its 80 deg by 50 deg
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Aye, obviously an option. but that leaves 80deg firing up indoors... not ideal
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(rotating horn or just flipping the cabs on their side, no intrusion needed)

Put another HF horn on top and filter the HF out of your speakers?
Or do you need a more permanent solution that looks more integrated and or professional?



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What are you trying to achieve, is it to splay 2 or 3 boxes side by side? 
The rated box dispersion is a lie or is at least isn't the whole truth, it only aplies to the HF horn output the woofer is omni directional over much of its range.  To really get controlled dispersion over the box's whole output range all drivers have to be horn loaded.
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Quote I am looking to reduce the dispersion angle of my speakers. Are there some dirty tricks I can look at to achieve this? Barn doors, some sort of phase-pluggery, etc?


The simple answer is no. Barn door will have some effect, but probably not what you are hoping for.

Quote Rotate the horn, its 80 deg by 50 deg


This has no effect on the low/mid cone drive unit

Quote Put another HF horn on top and filter the HF out of your speakers?


See above.

Quote The rated box dispersion is a lie or is at least isn't the whole truth, it only aplies to the HF horn output…….


This, sort of.

Quote …..the woofer is omni directional over much of its range.


Low frequency drive units get directional at quite low frequencies. There is no well defined cut off, but the nominal frequency, depending on who you talk to, happens where the value Ka is between 1 and 2. Ka = 2πa/λ and a is the effective radius of the drive unit.

For a 15” drive unit Ka = 1 is roughly 300 Hz.

This is approximately where the on axis spl is about 6db above what it would be if the source was radiating omni-directionally.

Quote To really get controlled dispersion over the box's whole output range all drivers have to be horn loaded.


Arrays are another means of controlling directivity. With a single cone, directivity basically comes down to its size. There are a few ways around it, but if implemented would likely a publicised selling feature.
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Martin used to be the helpful enough to put things like the beamwidth graphs on the main spec sheet; as has been said, the nominal pattern isn't well maintained below about 3kHz:

So, if any significant improvement is needed, especially in the lower mids below ~5-800Hz, then you need to switch to a more suitable box (or array thereof).
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