Speakerplans.com Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Other Chat > Lighting Talk
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Lights on 'PowerCON'
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Lights on 'PowerCON'
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
mini-mad View Drop Down
Old Croc
Old Croc
Avatar

Joined: 13 July 2012
Location: london
Status: Offline
Points: 6861 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mini-mad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2014 at 11:58pm
Im not saying your wrong... he's working to a budget so until the nuits have paid for themselves and making serious money theres nothing wrong with iec....

Like lighting on a truss my pc stays put and have yet to have it"be a bit funny" with me and its moved serveral times in the last year...
If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.
Back to Top
dylan-penguinmedia View Drop Down
Old Croc
Old Croc
Avatar

Joined: 14 April 2011
Location: Brighton
Status: Offline
Points: 4542 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dylan-penguinmedia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2014 at 12:06am
Cost wise, if you buy decent rewireable IEC's (Schurter etc), they're not that much cheaper than Powercon anyway. And cheap pre-made IEC > IEC cables are usually pretty skinny. Then you have to bundle them up because they're almost always too long or too short for what you need them for.

Buy once, buy right Smile
Back to Top
Andy Kos View Drop Down
Old Croc
Old Croc


Joined: 15 May 2007
Location: Southampton
Status: Offline
Points: 3043 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andy Kos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2014 at 11:53am
Originally posted by dylan-penguinmedia dylan-penguinmedia wrote:

Everything pro audio and lighting should be on Powercon if you ask me.
If it was more widespread it'd bring the price of connectors down.
 
The sound industry adopted the speakon, it has not brought the price down, Neutrik have just sat their on their throne milking the product for years until the patent ran out.
 
Now they just spend their time stopping anyone using the word 'speakon' as its their registered trademark, but as far as Im aware, they cant actually stop people making copies now.
 
However, although the copies are cheaper, most of them are utter crap
 
I cant see it being any different with Powercon, if more widely used, Neutrik will just make more profit. Although to be fair, they are very nice connectors, and do the job very well. Im not keen on not being able to link powerconns easily, so I prefer 16A CEE for most things.


Edited by Andy Kos - 02 February 2014 at 11:54am
just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk
Back to Top
dylan-penguinmedia View Drop Down
Old Croc
Old Croc
Avatar

Joined: 14 April 2011
Location: Brighton
Status: Offline
Points: 4542 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dylan-penguinmedia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2014 at 11:57am
Their 16a version is a good compromise - linkable, and with the in/out chassis connector, just don't think it's pushed hard enough.

You have a point with Neutrik sitting on the profits, but I don't really have an issue with the price of a Speakon / Powercon at what I pay for them. And I know when they're in, they stay there.
Back to Top
norty303 View Drop Down
Old Croc
Old Croc
Avatar

Joined: 18 August 2004
Location: Eastbourne
Status: Offline
Points: 8800 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote norty303 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2014 at 12:40pm
My Indigo 4600 came with blue locking IECs. First time I've seen then and wonder why they're not more widespread
My laser stuff: Frikkin Lasers
Back to Top
Andy Kos View Drop Down
Old Croc
Old Croc


Joined: 15 May 2007
Location: Southampton
Status: Offline
Points: 3043 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andy Kos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2014 at 8:36pm
Originally posted by dylan-penguinmedia dylan-penguinmedia wrote:

Their 16a version is a good compromise - linkable, and with the in/out chassis connector, just don't think it's pushed hard enough.

You have a point with Neutrik sitting on the profits, but I don't really have an issue with the price of a Speakon / Powercon at what I pay for them. And I know when they're in, they stay there.
To be fair, the price isnt too bad, my point was mainly that I dont think more widespread use would decrease the price.
 
If they were to decrease the price first, then I think they would be used more.
 
With the speakon, the produced a connector that fixed a big problem with speakers, and filled a gap in the market for a reliable, rugged speaker connector,hence it became the industry standard for a lot of people (I realise there are exceptions..)
 
With power, there are sooo many options, the powercon, although a very neat, tidy option, hasnt filled the same niche the speakon did.
 
With lighting, I think the over-riding factor is that the panel mount iecs will be a lot cheaper in china than buying in a powercon, so the manufacturer will make the choice to fit IECs.
 
Since its standard practise to supply a mains lead with a new fitting, a moulded IEC is the cheapest option.
 
 
 


Edited by Andy Kos - 02 February 2014 at 8:43pm
just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk
Back to Top
mini-mad View Drop Down
Old Croc
Old Croc
Avatar

Joined: 13 July 2012
Location: london
Status: Offline
Points: 6861 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mini-mad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2014 at 7:50am
beta-max vs. VHS....... and thats where i rest my case.
If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.08
Copyright ©2001-2026 Web Wiz Ltd.