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Originally posted by Chris B Chris B wrote:



I was going to do this to mine anyway, but now reading your post have just realised that this would bring the driver forward by 18mm thereby increasing the volume in the front chamber. Wouldn't it?

Would this have a negative effect on the performance of the Super Scoops?


This wouldn't increase chamber, would just increase external dimensions, and remove 18mm of driver depth/driver displacement from chamber.

Increasing chamber volume would increase lower response at cost of sensitivity and cone excursion. Substantial increases typically suit larger Vas/Xmax drivers.

Tony, don't you double baffle  already?


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Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

This wouldn't increase chamber, would just increase external dimensions, and remove 18mm of driver depth/driver displacement from chamber.

But wouldn't the loss of driver depth increase the volume of free space in the chamber? Therefore lowering the response like you said. Maybe I'm getting it all wrong though?
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Originally posted by Chris B Chris B wrote:


But wouldn't the loss of driver depth increase the volume of free space in the chamber?

Yes. Increases free space as less is displaced by driver.

Originally posted by Chris B Chris B wrote:


Maybe I'm getting it all wrong though?

No. The actual chamber size is unchanged. Some modelling proggies allow for driver displacement in chamber if you supply it, (WinISD I think), and some don't.
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Unfortunately I don't have access to modelling programs as I'm on a Mac, and searches for suitable programs have been fruitless.
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Originally posted by Chris B Chris B wrote:

Unfortunately I don't have access to modelling programs as I'm on a Mac, and searches for suitable programs have been fruitless.


If you are on one of the intel based macs you should definitely be able install some sort of windows emulator, and download/run Hornresp for PC's. The author posts on this site regularily.
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No I'm on a G4 PPC, but thanks anyway.
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Originally posted by CHAMPION CHAMPION wrote:

update from Fane: 
 
depth is 8.25 inches not including front gasket, res. is 32Hz which can be lower if required (26Hz)
 
XB's will hopefully be available again soon
 
 
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Originally posted by Tekasis Tekasis wrote:

Originally posted by Insomnia Insomnia wrote:

Tek wats the depth of the turbomax. il see if they fit the superscoops im building
 
They're 200mm from the back Insomnia.
 
These Superscoops you built for Abrupt, are they built to the exact same spec as the one you done for me ?
 
If so, I tried one of the TurboMax's in my one & surprisingly it fit without hitting the rear board in the chamber, but it's quite close.
 
Can you remember the thickness of the padding in my one ? Well the driver didn't fit with the padding in place.
 
 
yes boss
 
his are exactly to spec - the foam fitted in his and ur scoop is 1'' thick
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