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Originally posted by Nigey-C Nigey-C wrote:

Carlos isnt providing me with fully built cabs, they are flat pack, and i build them. He has sourced me some drivers Cheaper Than PAP, so i ordered 8 through Him!
i didnt realise some of you are stupid on this forum!
 
my prices are finished UK prices no Fcuking duty or vat
 
please put your spliffs down and read carefully
 
nigey-c ...your a
 
and Carlos is clever for selling to you lot
 
1800  1800 1800for 8
finished in cardboard packaging all shiny and new
 
good luck with the dust nigey-c and my maths are better than yours i make it 325 per cab finished (loaded) and if carlos is getting them cheaper, i rekon 90 each that makes it 315 each loaded
 
2520 for 8 tasty bass bins loaded,  i make that a bargain you obviously dont, i suggest in future you read more carefully that way you will have allot more money 
 
bet your not married and if you are dont dare tell your wife what you have just spent and dont forget all the time lost not seeing her while you are making your boxs
 
you say your getting them for allot less?????
 
heres a tip when you build a box your labour "far" out numbers the material cost ,so i dont know how your brain works when you figured that one out
 
still carlos is glad you cant read carefully
 
 


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Originally posted by djstefanos djstefanos wrote:

Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

Originally posted by Nigey-C Nigey-C wrote:

kool... was just a thought running through my head as to how low can get them..

Looking at making some for a nightclub install thats coming up, was thinking of a wall off punishers... or a couple of small walls of them along the dance floor...
 should have bought them from me!
 
you havent given me a price yet!! i PM'd u loads of times!!!
you have PM'd me once and i said i will work out a price
be patient and read more carefully or take some math lessons
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MyKey are you VAT registered?? Will you be providing me a VAT invoice???

The company i work for is VAT registered, The company Carlos is selling these cabs through is VAT registered, He provides me with a VAT invoice for everything. So i can claim the VAT back So i am gettin 17.5% back at the end of the day.

And i cant see how you costings can cover UK import taxes...

Why not email me a Pro Forma of all the details from wood cutting costs, labour costs, packaging and delivery costs to me @ nigel@nightclubsuppliesuk.co.uk

will look forward to hearing from you.
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Ok folks, as i see it, mykey is off in foreign lands supervising the production.  The outlet part of his business is based in UK.
 
He ships his own stock to his business in UK where he then sells to you/us lot.
 
He is not buying it in from abroad as its his own product.  Assuming his uk business is VAT registered or has enough turnover to warrant being vat registered he should be able to provide a vat invoice.  If he isn't vat registered because he doesn't turnover enough each year then he should still be able to provide an invoice but without vat added (as he's not allowed to charge it)  Its still a good price even if you can't claim the vat back on it.
 
mykey, be nice to know how far off the mark that is, for the benefit of all here....    might put a stop to some speculation and guessing
 
 
...and if thats not how it works, perhaps a little clearer picture of how it does please.  If you weren't so vague in your responses I'm fairly sure that you'd have had far more orders by now, which would mean you wouldn't have to continually snipe posts with comments like on the previous pages.  You have a potentially fantastic product there but your marketing front sucks fairly badly (imo) and I'm STILL a potentially interested customer. 


Edited by norty303 - 22 September 2006 at 8:46am
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lol, labour cost? for me is zero, i enjoy playing with wood
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Originally posted by norty303 norty303 wrote:

Ok folks, as i see it, mykey is off in foreign lands supervising the production.  The outlet part of his business is based in UK.
 
He ships his own stock to his business in UK where he then sells to you/us lot.
 
mykey, be nice to know how far off the mark that is,  
 
 
 
...and if thats not how it works, perhaps a little clearer picture of how it does please.  If you weren't so vague in your responses I'm fairly sure that you'd have had far more orders by now,
 
 
 
 which would mean you wouldn't have to continually snipe posts with comments like on the previous pages.  You have a potentially fantastic product there but your marketing front sucks fairly badly (imo) and I'm STILL a potentially interested customer. 
thanks Norty303 your spot on!
sorry about being so vague  only im rushed off my feet here with work and when i get a minute i read the forum and realise that someone else has made a stupid decision "AGAIN" and my marketing skills only suck on this forum because of that reason, i do allright the rest of the time.
 
but hey! lets see if i still get any orders a?
 
quote nigey-c ...Why not email me a Pro Forma of all the details from wood cutting costs, labour costs, packaging and delivery costs 
 
they are finished not flat packed (assembled)
 
you want my inside leg measurement aswell ? 
 
 
 


 


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Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

 
quote nigey-c ...Why not email me a Pro Forma of all the details from wood cutting costs, labour costs, packaging and delivery costs 
 
they are finished not flat packed (assembled)
 
 


I know you said they werent flat packed, but its still gunna cost you money to wrap em in cardboard retard! And its gunna cost someone some labour to build em up!!!
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Perhaps you need to get a finished cab or 2 over to your premises in Essex, so if people really are interested they can go take a look hear them.  I'm assuming you flat pack them over here and assemble here, rather than ship empty finished boxes?

Perhaps an unassembled one for people to view too, or some pics on the site?

Given the fact that people are going elsewhere for a worse deal suggests to me that people simply don't have the trust in you at the moment.  Some good PR could change all that but you ned to make it easier for people to get at the right info/resources.
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Quote I know you said they werent flat packed, but its still gunna cost you money to wrap em in cardboard retard! And its gunna cost someone some labour to build em up!!!
 
You really are not paying attention to the man are you?
 
He says that the price is fully inclusive (bar postage if you need it).  Why do you need to know what he pays in labour costs?  You don't ask Panasonic how much they pay to build your new telly do you?
 
Are you maybe feeling a bit miffed that you've just ordered a more expensive product, thats going to involve more work.....?
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I aint bothered if i have to build them up myself...

But MyKey is soo sure that he is selling a much better product.

Its a bit like when you get a flightcase built up, you get the invoice it tells you the materials used and the labour costs.,!
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Only if its a cutom job, if you buy a ready made cab from Martin, Void etc, you certainly don't get an invoice telling you what it cost to make them.
 
As i pointed out, mykey needs to prove himself and his product before people are going to buy into it, however I don't think he needs to prove the details you're asking for, just that they work, and are well constructed.
 
Maybe he might also need to prove that he's not whipping 5yr olds 23 hours a day to achieve those prices too..... 
 
 
 
 
should be 23.5hrs
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Originally posted by norty303 norty303 wrote:

Only if its a cutom job, if you buy a ready made cab from Martin, Void etc, you certainly don't get an invoice telling you what it cost to make them.
 
As i pointed out, mykey needs to prove himself and his product before people are going to buy into it, however I don't think he needs to prove the details you're asking for, just that they work, and are well constructed.
 
Maybe he might also need to prove that he's not whipping 5yr olds 23 hours a day to achieve those prices too..... 
 
 
 
 
should be 23.5hrs
i dont need to prove anything and that's India not Indonesia
 
but you guy's mite have to prove that you are not school boy's and you do have "MONEY".
 
the box's are sent assembled and empty, if i were to load them it would cost a fortune in duty
 
if nigey-c wants to make a fair size order i can invoice straight to him at the port of his choice minus the import duty and vat, that way he can claim the vat back through his company.
and the box's will be allot cheaper than my prices quoted 
my email nigey-c  mykeydread2000@yahoo.co.uk 
 
 
 
the thing is i don't need to send stuff to the UK i do alright in Asia
i just thought i would help you guys out by givng you a good deal
instead i get no trust and it thrown back in my face,i dont know why im bothering
 
you lot shouldnt be asking how can he achieve those prices instead you should be thankfull that you don't have to buy extremely expensive flat packs and finishing them yourselves just to tell people that....  "i made them" the thing is you didnt make them, making a box is starting from scratch with a 8x4 sheet of wood working out all you cut sizes and doing lots of machining, you didnt make them the cnc machine did
 
and you keep saying that labour costs me nothing! B-llsh*t !! it cost you time, and dont forget in your materials list...paint, sandpaper,glue screws etc etc
 
i know what its like building box's like i said before, i have been doing it for 27 years, its cool building 1 box but try building 8 or more you will see 
 
what you guy's should have done was all get together and buy them at the best rate, instead you keep question how and why, it's boring
 
the amount that i would sell to you guy's really isn't worth it for me, but i thought hey! lets help these guy's, you see i know what it cost's to build a box and all the major company's get there stuff build oversea's because it is so much cheaper, but the big cat's dont pass that saving on they charge you 2000 + for a bass bin or 7000 for a mid cab
 
some of you will say that the r&d cost allot? well i have friends that work (design) for major PA manufacturer's and i know how much they get payed and it just does'nt warrant the prices they charge you 
your being ripped off 
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