wiring punishers.....?

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   just built couple of punishers. (first speakers iv ever built)

not really sure about the wiring....

best wire to use?
right speakon connector? (4 or 2 pin)
wiring diagram?
solder or crimps?
best place to drill hole for wire to go through?

any help wood be great. cheers. 

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section303 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 16 February 2009 Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote section303 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: wiring punishers.....? Posted: 16 February 2009 at 11:43am
	just built couple of punishers. (first speakers iv ever built) not really sure about the wiring.... best wire to use? right speakon connector? (4 or 2 pin) wiring diagram? solder or crimps? best place to drill hole for wire to go through? any help wood be great. cheers.

tomschute Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 15 May 2006 Location: Mid Wales Status: Offline Points: 1817	Post Options Post Reply Quote tomschute Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 February 2009 at 6:54pm
	best wire to use? internal short runs you can get away with thinner but 4mm best right speakon connector? (4 or 2 pin) depends on your system config, speakon chassis are generally 4 pole anyway but you will prolly only need 2 wiring diagram? see below solder or crimps? I always solder direct onto speakon chassis best place to drill hole for wire to go through? keep the wire away from moving parts, make sure you seal the hole with silicone or similar, keep runs as short as poss Depending on what load you want your amp to see depends on how you wire the cabs. But with just 2x (8 ohm ciares) you are probabily going to run them in parallel. So simply wire all +'s together, all -'s togther basically - checking your amp to see what poles the signals are on, prolly 1+ 1-, do some reading on the subject before you blow your amp / speakers though... some good reading under "Series Vs Parallel Wiring" http://www.squatjuice.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56600
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Timebomb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 11 October 2004 Location: Lancaster Status: Offline Points: 2763	Post Options Post Reply Quote Timebomb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 February 2009 at 12:17am
	Id use 4 pole speakon sockets, 2 pole sockets only mate with 2 pole plugs (less common), 4 pole sockets will mate with 4 pole plugs and 2 pole plugs. 2.5mm is fine , I use a hot glue gun to seal the hole as it drys quicker than silicone
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section303 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 16 February 2009 Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote section303 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 February 2009 at 9:55pm
	ok nice one. iv got 2 4ohm ciares. planning on buildin another 2 aswell. so my guess is its not best idea to run them parralell right? which means id only need the one speakon input for each cabinet?? havn't bought amps for them yet.

tomschute Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 15 May 2006 Location: Mid Wales Status: Offline Points: 1817	Post Options Post Reply Quote tomschute Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2009 at 8:51am
	if you wanted to run them in series, to double resistance you'd still need 2 speakons per box to link through. You'd just have to alter your cable setup/chassis pins to suit. Oh and read up on the back EMF generated by the punishers. Should be posts up in this section. If you run 2x 4 ohms your amp wont actually see 2r or 8r. Nor if you run 2x 8 ohm will it see 4r or 16r. Edited by tomschute - 19 February 2009 at 8:53am
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flexomatic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 02 February 2009 Status: Offline Points: 28	Post Options Post Reply Quote flexomatic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 February 2009 at 5:59am
	I found this schematic on a car audio website, a combination of series/parallel wiring i thing will do good with a bridged amp the speakers are 4 ohms and this wiring scheme charges the amp also with 4 ohms feedback please

flexomatic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 02 February 2009 Status: Offline Points: 28	Post Options Post Reply Quote flexomatic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 February 2009 at 6:16am
	i thought of this:

section303 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 16 February 2009 Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote section303 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2009 at 2:40pm
	so the amp has to be bridged for you to run speakers in series?

aperrado Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 10 January 2008 Location: california Status: Offline Points: 315	Post Options Post Reply Quote aperrado Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2009 at 4:46am
	question if u want to put 2 speakon on one box to run it to another box (I think it mean parallel)how to wire, if it has 1+1- 2+2- can some one xplain me ? how to connect the 2 speakon and speaker in the same box?
	Im hard to learn but still asking

mrchay Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 29 September 2008 Status: Offline Points: 565	Post Options Post Reply Quote mrchay Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2009 at 12:21pm
	i would strongly suggest, regardless of what setup you are going to run, you put 2 4-pole speokon sockets on each cab, wired in parallel, with the driver coming off 1+,1-. so, connect the speaker + and - to 1+ and 1- on the first speakon socket. connect 1+ and 1- on the first speakon socket to 1+ and 1- on the second speakon socket connect 2+ and 1- on the first speakon socket to 2+ and 2- on the second speakon socket If you ever sell thecabs, this wiring is easy to get. you can daisychain cabs together. if you want you want a more exotic setup like the pictures above, building it into your hardware is a recipe for sadness, u wil change the setup sooner or later, then you will have weird wiring built into your cabs.

aperrado Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 10 January 2008 Location: california Status: Offline Points: 315	Post Options Post Reply Quote aperrado Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2009 at 5:46pm
	[QUOTE=mrchay]i would strongly suggest, regardless of what setup you are going to run, you put 2 4-pole speokon sockets on each cab, wired in parallel, with the driver coming off 1+,1-. so, connect the speaker + and - to 1+ and 1- on the first speakon socket. connect 1+ and 1- on the first speakon socket to 1+ and 1- on the second speakon socket connect 2+ and 1- on the first speakon socket to 2+ and 2- on the second speakon socket (quote) look on this 3rd column I think it will be 2+and 2- or Im wrong ty very much for get the time helping me
	Im hard to learn but still asking