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    Posted: 24 November 2006 at 2:54am
blessed everyone..new to fourm and would like to give thinks to everyone thats holding it down.... well i would like some input on what to do i got some decent setup and would like to build some box to go with it...i have 3 of these http://www.musicsupplycenter.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=100%2D186
 
                 
and i would like to know what would be  a good box for does.. i play mostly reggae/dancehall..i would say 95% of the time and the other 5% is hiphop.im loveing the x1 and the c sub design.but these are jsut for home use i dont play out or anything just like play some chunes all the time and these speakers i got right now aint sh*t i got 2 12" and my nabours got me looking bad right now.....yeah so iwant to build some decent box that will put dem in there place so please help me out on this one...
 
p.s im new to the hole building thing i use to build our w-bins when i use to live in the caribbeans but damn does use to leak like crazy you would hear more bass from the side and back...
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ok i check the link and didnt realize it didnt show the stuff.. but here is the specs for the speaker..
 
RMS Power Handling: 250 watts

TS Parameters

FS 36 hz
VAS 8.29
SD 143.13
Qts 0.826
Qes 0.888
Qms 11.83
BL 12.76
Re 6.40
Nominal Ohms 8
Le 468.73 uH
Mms 98.98
X max 0.25"
X mech 0.5"
Peak Power Handling: 500 watts
Ohms: 8
Frequency Response: 35 to 4600hz
Sensitivity: 100 dB
Magnet: 50 oz.
Basket: Stamp
Voice Coil: 2.5" kapton
Cone: Paper
Surround: Accordion
Binding Posts: Clip Type
Pole Piece: .
Overall Diameter: 15 1/16"
Overall Depth: 5 5/8"
Mounting Diameter: 13 13/16"
Mounting Depth: 5 1/4"
Warranty: 1 year
Weight: tbd lbs (Packed) on pallet
tbd lbs (Unpacked)
MSRP: $69 each.
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Not much you can do with them woofers as they look to be rather crap.
 
Some really poor specs there especially the very low BL and Qts of 0.82.
 
Anyway a very large reflex or a large infinite baffle [sealed cab] is all they would sound good in.
 
And 15 + 1/6 inch is a weird size. But that bit would be easy to sort out, just cut out a slightly bigger hole [13 + 13/16 inch cutout].
 
Download WINISD and see what you can model them woofers in.
 
http://www.linearteam.dk/  WINISD link download both pro and normal versions.
 
 
 
 


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ok i finialy resive 4 of these speakers i was going to go with 2 18" but  i rather get 4 of these than just 2 18.. but anyways we have to make due and all i wanted to know is what is a good size single cab for these i know everyone says reflex but isnt there is basic one i can just put together and slap dem in.it aint got to be perfect its just for home and it beats buying dem built.. i mean can someone just someone say " ok bingi all you need is a cab 20x20x20ins and put 2 round ports in it and call it a day".. something like that i mean i try that winisd and  i dont even know were to start with that thing .i would love it if someone can just give me simple size i can go put dem in that would be a big help...
 
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You aren't going to like any of this.
 
The   musicsupplycenter.com doesn't sell a woofer worth buying, a couple of their horns are OK.
 
If I was stuck with two pair of these drivers, I would first see if I could dump them on some teenager who didn't know any better. I would be reluctant to waste my time and money constructing cabinets for them.
 
The sensitivity spec is pure BS, or the T/S parameters are. I'm sure both are wrong.
 
Sell them at a swap meet to somebody to mount in the trunk of their ghetto-sled, that's about all they can be used for with that high of a Qts.
 
When you scrape up about $300, get back here. I think I can arrange to have four very good 15" Yamaha PA subs drop shipped to you for that kind of money.
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..i could of felt i wasnt going to get an answer...i mean i love everyone advise truste me but sometimes why do people like to beat around the bush or stray from the question..i been comming here for along azz time and love everyone system and how clean they look but not all of us play out or dj or things like that,some of us just wake up and just wanna play some chunes and dont need a $500 system just play 20mins of music before to get busy.i mean i know someone will come after this and post something negative but its cool we all have a right to voice our opinion and mine is why can't we just all help one another out and just give a simple advise i mean i read alot of the post on here and there alllllll the same ,some come and ask what to do with eminence(sinse i see that name alot) and no one never get an answer all they ask is whats good cab size or whats a good cab for it they didnt ask if its good or not so i dont feel thats apart of the question i mean it takes less time to answer the question direct"ok for that speaker just put it in a box such and such size" done simple thing but its very discoragin when people keep telling you the speakers are crap and there wortless but the fact remains the person have it and ask for a little adivce and it wont hurt to answer the question direct and if the speaker blows then oh well its not your fault nothing last forever.
 
and thanks for the advise djk but the fact still remains if you sell it to a teenager all that means he still need's a cab for dem and what happens if he comes on here and ask the same question..see were i am getting it will never end until someone just answer the question direct no need to get into details  or anything like that you feel me.but anyways the fact remains why would i spend 300 bucks on something i might hardly use or only use for like 1hr aday thats like buying a 1million dollor house and only sleep in it ones a week.worltess but all im simply asking is i have these speakers and want a simple cab size for dem like i love insomia 18sub he built and would love some of does in a 15" size or just a simple cab size that thay will play decent it thats all im asking...
 
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..i could of felt i wasnt going to get an answer...i mean i love everyone advise truste me but sometimes why do people like to beat around the bush or stray from the question..i been comming here for along azz time and love everyone system and how clean they look but not all of us play out or dj or things like that,some of us just wake up and just wanna play some chunes and dont need a $500 system just play 20mins of music before to get busy.i mean i know someone will come after this and post something negative but its cool we all have a right to voice our opinion and mine is why can't we just all help one another out and just give a simple advise i mean i read alot of the post on here and there alllllll the same ,some come and ask what to do with eminence(sinse i see that name alot) and no one never get an answer all they ask is whats good cab size or whats a good cab for it they didnt ask if its good or not so i dont feel thats apart of the question i mean it takes less time to answer the question direct"ok for that speaker just put it in a box such and such size" done simple thing but its very discouragin when people keep telling you the speakers are crap and there wortless but the fact remains the person have it and ask for a little adivce and it wont hurt to answer the question direct and if the speaker blows then oh well its not your fault nothing last forever.
 
and thanks for the advise djk but the fact still remains if you sell it to a teenager all that means he still need's a cab for dem and what happens if he comes on here and ask the same question..see were i am getting it will never end until someone just answer the question direct no need to get into details  or anything like that you feel me.but anyways the fact remains why would i spend 300 bucks on something i might hardly use or only use for like 1hr aday thats like buying a 1million dollor house and only sleep in it ones a week.worltess but all im simply asking is i have these speakers and want a simple cab size for dem like i love insomia 18sub he built and would love some of does in a 15" size or just a simple cab size that thay will play decent it thats all im asking...
 
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 didnt even see i posted 2 times.. my bad
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http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=de%7Cen&u=zmatek.jinak.cz/diy/pbaudio/bassreflex/show_construction.asp.html&prev=/language_tools
it will fit in that cab and it will make a noise, try searching round the web for plans on reflex plans there usually simple enough to build.

or go back to where you bought them from and talk to them about : - http://www.musicsupplycenter.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=101%2D001


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Any driver will make noise in any size box.
 
Since you are bound and determined to waste your time and money, just make any sized box for them between 2.5cu ft and 5 cu ft per driver.
 
They would work much better in a free air baffle in the trunk of a car behind the rear seat, but you don't want to hear that.
 
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