1" comp from 4K up

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   Looking to replace my exceedingly old and battered comp drivers, looking for something that can do VHF well. 

They will be crossed around 4.5khz taking over from 10" JBL 2123H in sealed box that I run from 800 all the way up. 

Ideally I would like to pair with a relatively narrow dispersion horn, around 40 degrees so I can have 3 or 4 per side and not have loads of comb filtering. 

Will be powered by a QSC PL325 so plenty of power available. Price is a factor, would prefer 6 or 8 cheap drivers with narrow horns to 2 expensive drivers with wide horns. Also cant be on massive horns as need to sit comfortably on relatively small boxes below but given the high crossover point I dont see the need for large horns.

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fat_brstd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 23 August 2008 Location: Melbourne, OZ Status: Offline Points: 2126	Post Options Post Reply Quote fat_brstd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 1" comp from 4K up Posted: 21 November 2018 at 8:41am
	Looking to replace my exceedingly old and battered comp drivers, looking for something that can do VHF well. They will be crossed around 4.5khz taking over from 10" JBL 2123H in sealed box that I run from 800 all the way up. Ideally I would like to pair with a relatively narrow dispersion horn, around 40 degrees so I can have 3 or 4 per side and not have loads of comb filtering. Will be powered by a QSC PL325 so plenty of power available. Price is a factor, would prefer 6 or 8 cheap drivers with narrow horns to 2 expensive drivers with wide horns. Also cant be on massive horns as need to sit comfortably on relatively small boxes below but given the high crossover point I dont see the need for large horns.
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Teunos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 23 November 2008 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1799	Post Options Post Reply Quote Teunos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 November 2018 at 8:59am
	Leaving the discussion of whether or not having that much horns next to each other is something you want, and if you really want to cross a 10" at 4.5kHz, i highly recommend the BMS 4538. Slightly pricier than the 4524 but can take a bit more power and be crossed lower than 4k5 which i think is worth it for your application. But seriously, 1 or 2 4538 per side, with the 10" crossed at ~2kHz up to 2.5kHz, is gonna give you a much cleaner sound and less comb filtering. for narrow controlled directivity you need surface area down low. Horns with wider specced dispersion are always more CD compared to narrow ones simply due to the mouth area. Having 3 or 4 horns per side unless you are absolutely sure they are near perfect CD is something i personally would never do. That 10" should be able to be crossed a bit lower than 800Hz.
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Sinai Sound Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 09 November 2009 Location: Sheffield Status: Offline Points: 631	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sinai Sound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 November 2018 at 9:23am
	Hope oz is treating you well Adrian! My friend recently built some boxes with the 18 Sound HD125, which sounded decent running 7k upwards They're also pretty cheap, so if you wanted to buy one for a test, it wouldn't break the bank I very briefly used the BMS 4538 combined with the 18sound XT1086 horn years ago and that sounded super nice I'm fairly sure that my mate who built the above boxes compared the HD125 vs 4538 and he said that the 18sound was better at the higher frequencies Edited by Sinai Sound - 21 November 2018 at 10:12am

krazyneil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 06 December 2007 Location: Bolton ,lancs Status: Offline Points: 1206	Post Options Post Reply Quote krazyneil Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 November 2018 at 6:37pm
	my choices would be BMS 4524 or B&C DE12 both reasonably priced and both sound very nice crossed over 3k ,ive used both to great affect
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nickyburnell Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 06 February 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4410	Post Options Post Reply Quote nickyburnell Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 November 2018 at 7:11am
	Combe filtering/dispersion aside 10" up to 4k then comp (bit like old school bullet cabs) can sound very sweet IMHO
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