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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JonB67 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 November 2018 at 7:29am
It weighs 2000lbs. Thats 900 kilos... and the driver compliment is crazy! Might get the award for the most bonkers commercial offering?
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That could work well with my 4x18" subwoofer ;)
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Originally posted by ceharden ceharden wrote:

If we're into talking silly boxes:



You aren’t meant to take it apart again after you put it together. Believe me, I have enquired many times about putting one on top of the Matterhorn each side of a stage.
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If you put a Caleb either side of a stage, you'd need to keep the audience a *long* way back to prevent hearing damage. They're intended for long-throw outdoor venues like stadiums where they'd be flown way over the heads of any audience and the nearest ear is a hundred feet away or more...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote njw Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 November 2018 at 9:36pm
Originally posted by IanD IanD wrote:

If you put a Caleb either side of a stage, you'd need to keep the audience a *long* way back to prevent hearing damage. They're intended for long-throw outdoor venues like stadiums where they'd be flown way over the heads of any audience and the nearest ear is a hundred feet away or more...
 


 .....But how many of us would love to put them in a small venue just for fun?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 November 2018 at 12:48pm
I guess if your idea of fun is inflicting permanent hearing damage, it might be fun...

(it's not like ultra-loud bass which doesn't make you deaf because of the Fletcher-Munson curves, >160dB in the midrange really is a recipe for instant and permanent partial deafness)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote njw Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 November 2018 at 2:21pm
Originally posted by IanD IanD wrote:

I guess if your idea of fun is inflicting permanent hearing damage, it might be fun...

(it's not like ultra-loud bass which doesn't make you deaf because of the Fletcher-Munson curves, >160dB in the midrange really is a recipe for instant and permanent partial deafness)
  

 C'mon IanD, I were only having a laugh! It's not like it'll fit in a small venue anyway, the bloody thing's over 3 meters tall and weighs nearly a tonne. Smile
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Originally posted by IanD IanD wrote:

If you put a Caleb either side of a stage, you'd need to keep the audience a *long* way back to prevent hearing damage. They're intended for long-throw outdoor venues like stadiums where they'd be flown way over the heads of any audience and the nearest ear is a hundred feet away or more...


In this case the stage was one side of a huge body of water with the ‘crowd’ at the other. I’m not that daft

Also loud bass can still cause permanent hearing damage too. If not more so because the perception is that it is lower in volume even if the pressure is the same.
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Danley and Bishop in the same thread, whatever next Smile
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Originally posted by concept-10 concept-10 wrote:

Danley and Bishop in the same thread, whatever next Smile


He might do well to take note before making such bold claims because that system isn’t doing 1000 people even for just speech at a sit down event.
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Funny world. Slough Centre, what did that hold, 700-1000?  88-90 raves done on 6 T18's and two of the 1810 top thingys. Also seen it done on 4 small stacks of Martin 115 and some phillys.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2018 at 2:48pm
Disagree, the damage levels for ear track Fletcher-Munson curves -- it takes way higher SPL (measured unweighted) at low frequencies to cause damage, midrange is by far the biggest problem. Otherwise the crazy demos like Tom Danley standing in the mouth of the Matterhorn at full tilt would mean he'd be almost instantly deaf...

Caleb is a fantastic solution to the right problem, especially not suffering treble phasing problems like big line arrays (and being a lot smaller -- ten feet tall and weighing a ton is small and light compared to the line array you'd need to get the same volume a hundred yards away). It might even be cheaper (or might not...) especially when you consider the smaller amplifiers needed...
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