martin audio h3 vs h3+

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   I have been using a pair of h3's on top of some ws218x for smaller inside shows for a few years now, its a nice sounding system and its out earning its keep on a regular basis.
Im considering swapping them out for some h3+

has anyone here owned both boxes and are the h3+ worth the upgrade?

Edited by Danny A - 22 January 2019 at 11:47pm

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Danny A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 30 May 2009 Status: Offline Points: 444	Post Options Post Reply Quote Danny A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: martin audio h3 vs h3+ Posted: 22 January 2019 at 10:38pm
	I have been using a pair of h3's on top of some ws218x for smaller inside shows for a few years now, its a nice sounding system and its out earning its keep on a regular basis. Im considering swapping them out for some h3+ has anyone here owned both boxes and are the h3+ worth the upgrade? Edited by Danny A - 22 January 2019 at 11:47pm

L8 ECU Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 19 August 2015 Location: Wales UK Status: Offline Points: 77	Post Options Post Reply Quote L8 ECU Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 January 2019 at 7:08pm
	BTTT........Very good question, but no answers? Strange

MattStolton Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 04 September 2010 Location: Walthamstow Status: Offline Points: 4234	Post Options Post Reply Quote MattStolton Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 January 2019 at 2:13pm
	Never heard them together, so take everything I say with dose of salt. AFAIK the only significant difference was a different bass driver, with a power rating difference, but seemed to give naff all difference to output SPL. I have seen many rigs for sale (218+ and H3) where the H3 were a mixture of H3 and H3+. I don't think you would hear a difference, perhaps only SMAART or equivalent might spot it. If you look in the MA V4.1 general presets, the only significant change is the Vx Limiter 15" driver threshold, which reflects the higher power driver. H3 15" Vx at 66.5V, H3+ is Vx at 82.0V. Some differences in suggested PEQ, with H3+ requiring more, perhaps it has been measured more? Download V4.1 excel available here https://martin-audio.com/support/loudspeaker-settings. Excel tabs of interest are "Blackline+" Row 41 for H3+; and "Blackline" row 57 for H3. Edited by MattStolton - 25 January 2019 at 2:14pm
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Danny A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 30 May 2009 Status: Offline Points: 444	Post Options Post Reply Quote Danny A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 January 2019 at 2:35pm
	thanks for the info Matt, I have looked at the spread sheets, I just wanted some proper user feedback, higher numbers don't always mean better.

discosucks Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 06 November 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1548	Post Options Post Reply Quote discosucks Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 January 2019 at 6:33pm
	I've heard and used both together and at different times . The h3+ have a very slight spl edge over the h3 in the mid/high (IMO) . In an blind A/B test I don't think you'd notice the difference in over all quality .

Danny A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 30 May 2009 Status: Offline Points: 444	Post Options Post Reply Quote Danny A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 January 2019 at 1:06pm
	Thanks for the info discosucks, mine have just had some new 10" drivers fitted, may as well hang on to them by the sounds of it.