What to build

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   Hey,I'm researching to build a system for mainly indoor warehouse, but also outdoor raves and events.  We would be playing a wide range of electronic genres but mostly techno and jungle.  I think sound quality and clarity would be my first priority since I can always build more boxes right?

I have been interested in initially building X-Tros and Punishers but I'm concerned I can no longer get XT8 flares?
I was also looking at the MT121 plans, and saw they were revised, but the link to that is now dead.

I guess what I'm asking is if money was not an issue and I wanted the best sounding system possible, what should I build?  
Thanks

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dadapaint Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Member Joined: 01 October 2015 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote dadapaint Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: What to build Posted: 03 October 2019 at 12:31pm
	Hey, I'm researching to build a system for mainly indoor warehouse, but also outdoor raves and events. We would be playing a wide range of electronic genres but mostly techno and jungle. I think sound quality and clarity would be my first priority since I can always build more boxes right? I have been interested in initially building X-Tros and Punishers but I'm concerned I can no longer get XT8 flares? I was also looking at the MT121 plans, and saw they were revised, but the link to that is now dead. I guess what I'm asking is if money was not an issue and I wanted the best sounding system possible, what should I build? Thanks

DMorison Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 14 March 2007 Location: Aberdeen Status: Offline Points: 1649	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMorison Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2019 at 12:46pm
	Peter Morris PM60s (https://soundforums.net/community/threads/60-degree-diy-mid-hi.12390) over Xoc1 TH18's (https://soundforums.net/community/threads/60-degree-diy-mid-hi.12390) would be one of the higher quality options out there if done right. Edited by DMorison - 03 October 2019 at 12:47pm

citizensc Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 16 October 2015 Location: Perth,Australia Status: Offline Points: 532	Post Options Post Reply Quote citizensc Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2019 at 1:32pm
	As someone who owns and loves an xtro punisher system, if I was to build a new system today, I wouldn't build that. You are right about the XT8s being hard to get, when we built xtro number 3 and 4 we had a hard time getting them. After >6 months of emails backwards and forwards with mykey (the guy who designed and makes XT8s) I ended up buying some off another member on here, he had to pull his xtros apart to sell them to me. This was about two years ago. I haven't heard the pm60/90 but they seem like a pretty compelling offer. I think they would actually work out cheaper than an xtro to build, be much smaller, lighter and potentially sound better. The big advantage the xtro has is it plays a little lower which gives you more options for bass. A tapped horn like the TH18 could work well with them but I haven't heard those either. You also wouldn't need a big pile of them to reach down low like you do with FLHs eg. punishers. This would make the system more scalable between small and large events. I do wonder if a TH18 + PM60 system would have enough kick for techno, as it has no dedicated kick bin. Maybe someone else on here can shed some light on that.

smitske96 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 16 February 2016 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1092	Post Options Post Reply Quote smitske96 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2019 at 2:51pm
	Here in the Netherlands, someone has a PM90+TH18 rig. everything is powered by two powersoft 3004PFC4 modules. He uses the BMS 4594 + passive XO.

Cyklist Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 14 December 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 707	Post Options Post Reply Quote Cyklist Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2019 at 3:57pm
	just built PM90 myself, am very impressed with this box. Running with passive xo 2 way and also 3 way active. Huge output from these boxes and far easier move around than most other high output tops.
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dadapaint Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Member Joined: 01 October 2015 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote dadapaint Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2019 at 4:59pm
	Wow these PM60s seem almost perfect, the thread has a lot of information for me to go through now.

dadapaint Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Member Joined: 01 October 2015 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote dadapaint Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 November 2020 at 2:47am
	I'm finally in the financial position where building is realistic, but I've had my interest piqued in the Syntripp Horn instead of the PM60s after hearing an amazing Danley system. Both seem very highly regarded so now I am unsure of which to choose. Would anyone be able to shed some light regarding their differences in sound? thanks

smitske96 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 16 February 2016 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1092	Post Options Post Reply Quote smitske96 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 November 2020 at 4:05pm
	The PM60/90 will definitely have more output compared to the SyntripP design. One PM60/90 should fit nice under something like 3 dual 18 BR's (or something comparable in output). If you're going for multiple SyntripP's per side you basically defeat the main purpose of the design.