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    Posted: 28 May 2021 at 2:08pm
Hi might be the wrong thing to post here but just got a question for people who have knowledge regarding sound systems and their intricacies
I am running events for live electronic performance and DJ sets with techno music 
Running these events i am hosting at a venues with a sound system which includes a d&B V-series 7 p x 4,  and D&B B22 Sub x 1 i assume that they have been calibrated to the room these venues are mainly focused on running live bands, I was thinking of hiring a void Sound system for the event including 
2 x Void Air Motion Tops (White)
2 x Void Stasys X V1 Double 18" Subwoofers (Black)
2 x Void Stasys X V2 Double 18" Subwoofers (Black)
I was wondering if anyone could evaluate wether there would be any point in doing this or would the difference in sound quality be negligible or if it would improve the sound quality, i would be able to hire sound engineers to come in and calibrate the void system to the room

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Hi fellow Aussie.

First obvious difference would be you are bringing in 4 x double 18" versus the one that is in there ? Will you be allowed the space to put them in, and can you even turn them up without breaking noise restrictions, most venues don't like ( or want) other sound gear taking up valuable punter space , especially when there's covid restrictions still in place ?
The D&B system could be eq'ed to " techno" if you are allowed access to the system controllers or even a simple system controller in-line before the amps ( presuming they've done all the system EQ in the D12's/ D80s ? Also you could just hire more B22's and amps to add to the system if it just needs more bass ?
But IMO the only difference which people would notice would be the visual factor , the Void rig is not " discrete" !!

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Originally posted by colangu colangu wrote:

Hi might be the wrong thing to post here but just got a question for people who have knowledge regarding sound systems and their intricacies
I am running events for live electronic performance and DJ sets with techno music 
Running these events i am hosting at a venues with a sound system which includes a d&B V-series 7 p x 4,  and D&B B22 Sub x 1 i assume that they have been calibrated to the room these venues are mainly focused on running live bands, I was thinking of hiring a void Sound system for the event including 
2 x Void Air Motion Tops (White)
2 x Void Stasys X V1 Double 18" Subwoofers (Black)
2 x Void Stasys X V2 Double 18" Subwoofers (Black)
I was wondering if anyone could evaluate wether there would be any point in doing this or would the difference in sound quality be negligible or if it would improve the sound quality, i would be able to hire sound engineers to come in and calibrate the void system to the room



pay the venue's sound engineer a decent wage to be there for the gig.
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A Y7P being driven by the correct amplifier D20/80 is a vastly superior box to the Air Motion IMHO.

Can you mix the V1 and V2 Stasys X? Are the chamber size and horn paths the same? What about the Driver?

At present the club has one of the best sound systems in the world in it. My only suggestion would be to hire in a couple more B22's

I know I may get shot down here, But putting a Void rig inplace of a D&B system is a massive step backwards.
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Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:


Can you mix the V1 and V2 Stasys X? Are the chamber size and horn paths the same? What about the Driver?



They have different horns, port tunings, drivers and physical dimensions. The presets are very different too. They don’t sound very similar, in my experience of owning or installing something like 50 of them over the years. We don’t carry any Void stock for rental these days but I’m pretty sure there haven’t been major revisions to the archival or current boxes since we last did.

A competent engineer can mix subs, but it’s going to take some serious work. Work that can’t be done in a venue, for a start.

I wouldn’t personally do it unless I had little other choice. Like yourself, I’d probably save on overall effort and cost by adding more B22 or even some J-INFRA to the system that’s there already along with a good engineer who knows the rig and venue.

However, we know nothing about the venue layout, capacity, or the Void provider’s proposed system design. I don’t think there are a ton of Void houses out in Oz, so if it’s Andy from Buzz that you’re referring to I’d say you’re in good hands - but that you should still ask about the system design and implementation to make sure you’re happy.

At the end of the day, it’s your cash. Listen to both rigs if you can, and make your choice.
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thanks for the responses and the advice definitely going to stick with the d&b system and try to organise some b22 subs for the event and have a sound engineer for the whole event  
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running any kind of gig without a sober professional at the helm is a terrible idea. Be like opening a cocktail bar without cocktail trained barstaff, giving a racing car to someone who can't drive, or sending an 18year old virgin to a porn shoot and expecting good results.

As many said, check the venue restrictions. Four tops to one sub would imply one sub is plenty for the room, and the multiple tops are to ensure decent coverage of the room. D&B can't just be bought by anyone, they are notoriously difficult to become a customer of - to be one you really have to know what you're doing with it. To install it you need to be an approved installer of it. To buy it, you must buy a complete turnkey solution as a complete solution. Chances are whoever installed it knew what they're doing.


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Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

D&B can't just be bought by anyone, they are notoriously difficult to become a customer of - to be one you really have to know what you're doing with it. To install it you need to be an approved installer of it. To buy it, you must buy a complete turnkey solution as a complete solution. Chances are whoever installed it knew what they're doing.


I was talking to someone who works at d&b about a month ago; apparently you are, or soon will be able to buy direct as a consumer.
Obviously approved installer will still apply, etc.
Makes sense in an overcrowded and super competitive market, especially due to impact of sales from covid.
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