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    Posted: 14 August 2005 at 6:39am

 

Hi Guys a quick Question, will the pd 186 sound good in the EV box below ?

http://www.electrovoice.com/Electrovoice3/files.nsf/Pages/T1 8/$file/T18-eds.pdf

or what driver will sound good in that box ?

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If you got the 186 or are getting it cheap put it in 
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So you thnink they will sound good ?? or should i use another driver, BNC,kilomax ?? they will be used in multiples, and inside halls.
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Hi, how big are the halls going to be and how far do you want the sound to travel?.....186 are okay as a general all rounder but like i said if you are getting them cheap , if not consider building folded horns for distance and load them up proper, even scoopes are okay inside in mutiples. I can't see the pic properly of the EV.

Have you made the boxes already?.
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like the two others have said, it depends on your play area. are you building them for a small or large area?, how many people are you hosting? what is your range of responce your looking for and how far do you want it to carry?

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It's a T-18, an ass backwards scoop. The 186 will move the air, not as much as the 1850, but quite possibly more than the original EV driver, there's already a thread on this, have a little go with the search function for T-18 drivers and read Rog's FAQ.

Will the PD 186 or PD 184 driver give me the highest output in a horn loaded cab?



The PD 186 will have the higher output in a horn loaded cab. If you look at the specs for both drivers you will see that the 184 has the higher EBP so would be better suited for horn use. The 186 has a higher Vd so will always be able to move more air at lower frequencies than the 184, but for a given input the 184 will have about 2-3 dB extra output. So it all depends what you want. If you are never going to drive hell out of the cabs and aren't after maximum SPL then the 184 would be a better bet, it will give you more output for a given input level, it will also give you a quicker transient response. If you most have that extra 1 - 2 dB of extra SPL and don't mine having to drive the cab with huge amounts of power to get it then the 186 or ideally the 1850 are the way to go.

After doing listening tests you will find that both drivers are quite close in performance. You will find that the 186 has a very smooth Hi Fi kind of sound, but is a bit slow sounding. The 1850 has a very hard and grunty sound in comparison and the 184 sits somewhere in between. The PD 186 driver is best suited to reflex or bandpass enclosures.

So the more you get together the less pronounced the notching will be, or cross it over really low, and put some kind of kickhorn above it, if you need that kind of transient snapping,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Umney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2005 at 10:49pm
PD186 most people are suggestion that driver for the T18.
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