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    Posted: 29 July 2009 at 11:18pm
i keep thinking that if i built HD15s or ES18s i would blow my mind with satisfaction just going on a  whim of intuitive reading about... wWhat do i need to know about those two alone as stacks vs with things underneath number of cabinet and genre wise?  i like to do minimal / techno / house.  I was wondering what would be ideal? also does anyone know of amps that will not sound shoddy when running a good 2 ohms per side? i feel one REALLY heavy duty amp is worth it for this... thanks for the advice.
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OH and midtops... i would prefer NOT to have a midtop that's takes REALLY heavy duty cutting and weird types of wood and clamping... the HD15 is probably the MOST complex thing i can handle right now tool wise.  I would totally go for one of those plastic formed 12" horn + 2" horn combos tho if i could find an affordable one and some specs for a driver / horn combo... actually id like that, but that's probably a question for a different board anyway...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote boycey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2009 at 1:49pm
why's that a question for a different board? check the porn horn forum here, there's a thread about the limmer 308 in there, also check user mykey's fibre glass horns
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ok- two X1, four HD15, and 2 porn.... that's pricey but hey i'm willing to commit as i only ever try to make money when i actually have a definitive goal (herbs and spicesss.... sound systemssss... etc)

That im sort of racking up price in my mind is about like... hmmm 2500 for lows + about 2000 for low amps + about 500 for rack stuff to process and cables.... then PORNNNZZ HORNZZ for like yea... thats a 10,000 dollar system.   The issue isnt the price per se... i know it is worth the money... but will it be crisp and beautiful like stars burning in silence and i cry or will it sound liek giant speakers funneled thru weird boxes making noises tho loud im like WAT this house aint deep.... thats my question... yay or neigh?
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yay, i mean neigh, uh.... can you repeat the question..?
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also it will sound good if done properly
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why would you want 2 porn horns for that amount of bass?
i remember sum1 saying that 1 mt121 can just about cover 6 hd15's for certain types of music
you would need at least 2 tho due to the tight dispersion of the mt121
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indoor or outdoor, and how many people?

do you want to make money out of this? if so maybe you want to buy second hand branded mid tops and build your bass.

if this is more a hobby the porn horns would be a good option and they'll sound crisp, beautiful and very loud. they're not cheap though and staipers SMT212 would give good output and suit your build skills/tools.

at a guess if you're using porn horns you could probably go with 1 porn horn, 4 hd15 and 4 X1 per side. for the sort of music you're playing though a one box bass solution such as 1850/186 might be good...

amps wise, second hand QSC or Crest would probably be your best bet

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ok F porns ill use my old JBL 15s to start out and just slowly work on crossing it all over rly well.  I cant handle 4hd15 and 4x1 per mid top if not financially then psychologically for 1 12" lol... its too much to think about.

What genres and sizes of room and genres could i handle with 2 X1s and 4 hd15s?  How would it sound and what sort of crossover and EQ should i buy? i already have a behringer ultragraphpro 31 band EQ if that helps. id like to get something where i just assign Q values to assigned numbers and gains and stuff...
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